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Is smoking really to blame for lung cancer?
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:21 pm
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In the United States, 20 percent of women who develop lung cancer have never smoked a single cigarette, and that number rises to 50 percent of women with lung cancer worldwide who are lifelong non-smokers. In fact, lung cancer in never-smokers is the 6th leading cause of cancer-related deaths in the United States.
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HPV is now well-established as playing a role in most cases of cervical cancer, as well as many cases of vulvar cancer, penile cancer, roughly 95 percent of anal cancers, and 70 percent of oral cancers, especially those occurring in young, non-smoking women.
We've all heard , "if she smokes, she pokes", could lung cancer be from the poking and not the smoking.
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Recently in the United States, and increased incidence of lung cancer in young women who have never smoked has been noted, and the potential causes are unknown. This, combined with the number of never smokers worldwide who develop disease, indicates that better research into the causes is greatly needed
Should Phillip Morris get their money back?
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Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:23 pm to Kujo
It’s because they’re fat as frick
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:24 pm to Kujo
I quit a few months ago and generally feel better now
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:31 pm to Kujo
Well I wouldn’t say that smoking “prevents” cancer.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:32 pm to Kujo
Smoking isn't the only thing that could cause lung cancer but it contributes to it and other health issues at least. Respiratory issues are a big thing.
Have you seen all the chemicals in it?
I just don't know if you could ever pinpoint an exact cause of cancer. I imagine it doesn't help the cause. You have to factor in so many other variables.
Have you seen all the chemicals in it?
I just don't know if you could ever pinpoint an exact cause of cancer. I imagine it doesn't help the cause. You have to factor in so many other variables.
This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:34 pm to Kujo
It sure as frick causes bladder cancer.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:34 pm to Kujo
Cigarettes put fricking tar into your lungs. Explain to me how that is anything but bad.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:35 pm to Kujo
I don't think you're analyzing statistics correctly. Nonsmokers are accounting for a growing percentage of lung cancer cases because fewer people are smoking. So smoking-induced cancers are decreasing while other cancers are staying the same.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:38 pm to Kujo
I am 47 years old and no one I’ve known in my life has died of lung cancer.
I’ve also been in healthcare for 25 years and have seen very little lung cancer.
The risk of smoking is COPD, not lung cancer.
I’ve also been in healthcare for 25 years and have seen very little lung cancer.
The risk of smoking is COPD, not lung cancer.
This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:40 pm to Scoop
Smoke if you got em?
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:40 pm to Tigerbait357
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This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 7:41 pm
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:40 pm to Tigerbait357
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2nd hand smoke is pretty bad as well
I think you're missing the point. You are regurgitating anti-smoking propaganda.
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Actress Marcia Cross (“Desperate Housewives”) and her doctors revealed Wednesday that they believe her battle with anal cancer was caused by the same human papillomavirus (HPV) that lead to her husband Tom Mahoney’s throat cancer
here is an example, husband and wife get cancer from HPV and "2nd hand hpv".
If it were lung cancer, they'd blame smoking and 2nd hand smoke. But being anal and throat, they blame hpv, and one bats an eye
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:41 pm to PrivatePublic
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Here are a few of the chemicals in tobacco smoke and other places they are found:
Acetone—found in nail polish remover
Acetic acid—an ingredient in hair dye
Ammonia—a common household cleaner
Arsenic—used in rat poison
Benzene—found in rubber cement and gasoline
Butane—used in lighter fluid
Cadmium—active component in battery acid
Carbon monoxide—released in car exhaust fumes
Formaldehyde—embalming fluid
Hexamine—found in barbecue lighter fluid
Lead—used in batteries
Naphthalene—an ingredient in mothballs
Methanol—a main component in rocket fuel
Nicotine—used as an insecticide
Tar—material for paving roads
Toluene—used to manufacture paint
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:41 pm to Kujo
Who really knows. I’ve seen people that smoke and drink until they are in their 90’s and see people that are ‘healthy’ die at much younger ages that don’t smoke or drink.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:42 pm to Scoop
The American Cancer Society is sketchy as hell.
The risk of smoking that affects people every day and in real ways is COPD.
Lung cancer isn’t even close to the level.
The risk of smoking that affects people every day and in real ways is COPD.
Lung cancer isn’t even close to the level.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:44 pm to Kujo
Jesus you make some terrible threads.
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:46 pm to Tigerbait357
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Have you seen all the chemicals in it?
How many chemicals do you breathe in from the plastic fumes offgassing from your car’s dash?
How many cigarettes would I have to smoke to equal the garbage in diesel exhaust I breathe in when a bus passes by?
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:48 pm to Kujo
Well less people are smoking now than use to smoke 30-40 years ago. So when the prevalence of a risk factor decreases, it's not surprising that the incidence of smoking related disease can also decrease...and can allow other risk factors to be seen or have a rise in incidence. So yeah it's still to blame for lung cancer, and many others.
....Also you forgot to leave this important point out of the article:
There's been lots of studies in the head and neck area that show HPV can often be ubiquitous. Just because you have a oral cavity cancer and HPV, doesn't mean that the oral cavity cancer was because of the HPV. Out of all the subsites of head and neck area, only in cancers of the oropharynx (tonsils and base of tongue) does HPV provide any change any prognosis for the disease, even though you can certainly find HPV in cancers of the voice box, oral tongue, gums, etc, but it doesn't seem to change the prognosis/cancer behave differently.
....Also you forgot to leave this important point out of the article:
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Whether the presence of HPV in lung cancer indicates causation (that HPV causes lung cancer) is another question. Just because there is a correlation between 2 things—in this case the presence of HPV and the development of lung cancer—says nothing about causation.
There's been lots of studies in the head and neck area that show HPV can often be ubiquitous. Just because you have a oral cavity cancer and HPV, doesn't mean that the oral cavity cancer was because of the HPV. Out of all the subsites of head and neck area, only in cancers of the oropharynx (tonsils and base of tongue) does HPV provide any change any prognosis for the disease, even though you can certainly find HPV in cancers of the voice box, oral tongue, gums, etc, but it doesn't seem to change the prognosis/cancer behave differently.
This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:50 pm to Kujo
People that defend smoking in any way are trashy as frick
This post was edited on 6/7/19 at 7:51 pm
Posted on 6/7/19 at 7:52 pm to Puffoluffagus
They say that cigarettes are addictive but I don’t believe that crap. I’ve been smoking 7 packs a day for 11 years and I’m not addicted.
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