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re: I want to talk about the rebel flag
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:24 pm to HuskyPanda
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:24 pm to HuskyPanda
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I'm black and my opinion about the flag is...that I don't care.
No reason you should honestly.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:27 pm to HuskyPanda
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Do upper middle class, or upper class whites not share the same sentiment about the flag and it's history? DO they even care? What say you. I'm ready for thought provoking conversation and not have insults slung at me. I'm just curious.
TLDR Why do upper class whites not wave the rebel flag bot low income white do? and I'm black and the flag has never bothered me.
Same reason you don’t see a lot of blue lives matter flags in upper class hoods, rich people don’t want to appear trashy
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:34 pm to HuskyPanda
Point blank, it's the poor whites way of separating themselves from poor blacks. They might think it's for another reason or say it is about another reason, but when you pull back all the layers, that's what it comes down to.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:34 pm to HuskyPanda
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Why do upper class whites not wave the rebel flag bot low income white do?
Because the rebel flag is an easy way to immediately identify the worst people among us.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:34 pm to HuskyPanda
quote:HOA's
TLDR Why do upper class whites not wave the rebel flag bot low income white do? and I'm black and the flag has never bothered me.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:35 pm to HuskyPanda
It really took on a completely different meaning over time. You had a minority, the racist kkk types, that tried to make it a symbol of hate. Over time, it also evolved into a symbol of pride and Southern culture for some.
For others it became a outlaw symbol of rebellion against the "man" mainly in hot rod and biker culture.
For others it became a outlaw symbol of rebellion against the "man" mainly in hot rod and biker culture.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:36 pm to HuskyPanda
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But why is it that I see the flag waving in poorer, or lower income areas but never in higher income areas?
It isn’t out of the question to see the 1st National Confederate or Bonnie Blue flags being flown in upper crust areas.
There were many flags associated with secession and the Confederacy and they can normally be flown without any comments because most people are too ignorant to understand what they are seeing.
My personal favorite is the 2nd National or Jackson flag:
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:36 pm to HuskyPanda
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Do upper middle class, or upper class whites not share the same sentiment about the flag
If we are being honest states didn't start adding it to state flags during 50s.
I don't have a problem with it being used in an historical sense aka all the flags flown over this city or state. I would never hang it in my garage because most people seeing it would get a message I am not interested in sending.
Also I am from Louisiana not the south.
No loyalty to the rebel flag and if Whit liberals are confidence minorities don't like it take it down is fine not worth a fight.
I do fear how quickly we hide history vs using it as a conversation starter
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:39 pm to HuskyPanda
Poors cling to the past.
The wealthy look at the now and future.
Eyes forward vs. eyes backwards.
The rebel flag when used accurately, shows a pride and heritage for the south that we won’t just roll over and let Yankees say what’s good for us. Unfortunately, 90% of the time you see the rebel flag in the south, the person sporting it is prejudice at the least. It’s a symbol that disturbs a lot of African Americans and people that wear it, show it, fly it, are aware of that and are doing it for provocative purposes only.
I like others, are very proud of the south. I’m proud of our heritage, our people, our food and our outlook on life. It’s called being a good person and your actions should show that, not a flag.
The wealthy look at the now and future.
Eyes forward vs. eyes backwards.
The rebel flag when used accurately, shows a pride and heritage for the south that we won’t just roll over and let Yankees say what’s good for us. Unfortunately, 90% of the time you see the rebel flag in the south, the person sporting it is prejudice at the least. It’s a symbol that disturbs a lot of African Americans and people that wear it, show it, fly it, are aware of that and are doing it for provocative purposes only.
I like others, are very proud of the south. I’m proud of our heritage, our people, our food and our outlook on life. It’s called being a good person and your actions should show that, not a flag.
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:41 pm to HuskyPanda
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but never in higher income areas
Only in LSU colors because that makes it OK.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:51 pm to HuskyPanda
quote:There is this white guy named Volod who would love you.
Still pretty new here and I want to have a meaningful, thoughtful conversation
Posted on 5/12/19 at 5:59 pm to HuskyPanda
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I'm black and my opinion about the flag is...that I don't care. It's never bothered me, Ive shared drinks with people with rebel flags hung in their garage and they were ok in my book.
I'm Black also ... and you sound ridiculous lil brother
Posted on 5/12/19 at 6:02 pm to HuskyPanda
quote:fwiw I don’t really care about the Rebel flag by itself, I’m pretty meh about it. I only see trashy whites and “yee yee” folks waving it around.
Why do upper class whites not wave the rebel flag bot low income white do?
However, being from Mississippi, I do like it being on the state flag and think it fits well with the rwb stripes so I don’t want it removed.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 6:04 pm to HuskyPanda
My theory is that lower income white folk partially, or wholly, believe their lower financially status is due to black folk much like lower income black folk blame the whites for repression. The Confederate flag, in most instances, is a symbol like the African fist. Most don’t know what the true meaning behind either are.
Truth is, the world is what you make it. Want to get out of the trailer park or the hood, then put in on youself and do it. Don’t sit around and poor mouth or regale in what coulda/shoulda been or blame someone else for your situation
Truth is, the world is what you make it. Want to get out of the trailer park or the hood, then put in on youself and do it. Don’t sit around and poor mouth or regale in what coulda/shoulda been or blame someone else for your situation
Posted on 5/12/19 at 6:12 pm to HuskyPanda
Because upper class white people have shite to lose when snowflakes do their thing.
And good on you taking a full, fair look at what people actually do as they associate with it.
And good on you taking a full, fair look at what people actually do as they associate with it.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 6:16 pm to HuskyPanda
I think many of the posters of the OT have nailed it. Low-income people look to place the blame somewhere. Most of the people who fly the Confederate flag call themselves patriots and proud Americans, yet they are too ignorant to realize the flag represents a conflict of interest, since it also represents a rebellion against the country they "love." I think it's more of a mindset than it is an affiliation. Those who fly the flag pride themselves on not taking shite from anybody. That mindset usually leads them into the unemployment line, hence their Low-income status.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 6:27 pm to HuskyPanda
Rich southerners are proud of their own accomplishments. For poor southerners they have no accomplishments of their own do their only sense of pride stems from being on the losing side of a war that happened 150 years ago.
They call it pride but really they are still salty about the arse whuppin' their ancestors got and carry around a chip on their shoulder to this day.
They call it pride but really they are still salty about the arse whuppin' their ancestors got and carry around a chip on their shoulder to this day.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 6:28 pm to HuskyPanda
I think it’s one of several things;
1) education and income usually follow each other. Education usually increases understanding and removes ignorant biases about people unlike ones self
2) social and political standing. Even if you do have certain views that are contrarian, you have more to lose than to gain by wearing it on your sleeve
3) just overall better tact and understanding of what societal norms are.
1) education and income usually follow each other. Education usually increases understanding and removes ignorant biases about people unlike ones self
2) social and political standing. Even if you do have certain views that are contrarian, you have more to lose than to gain by wearing it on your sleeve
3) just overall better tact and understanding of what societal norms are.
Posted on 5/12/19 at 6:48 pm to HuskyPanda
The rebel flag is something for poor people to admire as a way to pretend the deep south was ever great
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 6:48 pm
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