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re: There is a world wide helium shortage and we may need to ban party balloons
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:02 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:02 pm to fr33manator
you tell me
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The atmosphere is composed of a mix of several different gases in differing amounts. The permanent gases whose percentages do not change from day to day are nitrogen, oxygen and argon. Nitrogen accounts for 78% of the atmosphere, oxygen 21% and argon 0.9%. Gases like carbon dioxide, nitrous oxides, methane, and ozone are trace gases that account for about a tenth of one percent of the atmosphere. Water vapor is unique in that its concentration varies from 0-4% of the atmosphere depending on where you are and what time of the day it is.
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Helium makes up about 0.0005% of the earth's atmosphere. This trace amount of helium is not gravitationally bound to the earth and is constantly lost to space. The earth's atmospheric helium is replaced by the decay of radioactive elements in the earth's crust.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:04 pm
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:03 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:09 pm to Dr RC
Big Helium putting in work
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:15 pm to Stud Bud
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Disney will also be affected by this. You know how many balloons are being blown up daily to sell to those kids?
So now my balloon in a balloon will cost me $50.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:20 pm to Dr RC
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What we use is mined from gas deposits in the ground.
It's mostly separated from industrial natural gas. The Texas panhandle natural gas fields were fairly high in Helium, maybe they are giving out. There are still chemical plants where helium is a problem and ends up being vented. If the price is high enough they will extract and sell it. Where there is a profit there is a way.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:23 pm to SippyCup
Why wouldn’t the normal supply and demand force prices up to where customers will not be willing to pay for helium balloons? I know I wouldn’t be willing to pay more than $10 for a helium balloon. Seems like demand would fall off dramatically and the medical instrument industry would be able to afford it. Same thing with diving...just don’t dive with tri-mix if you can’t afford it. If prices go up, then perhaps a business venture to open a new production facility would make sense and things would balance themselves out.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:24 pm to Jax Teller
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I don’t understand. Why is it finite?
You serious Clark?
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:31 pm to fr33manator
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Not to make light of the situation...but Couldn’t they just up the production?
It's too expensive to draw Helium out of the atmosphere, and not very feasible. Most helium sources come from the ground. I worked on a project a couple years ago where they were extracting helium from a CO2 pipeline that was used for O&G extraction. Most helium sources come from the deep down in the earth. This 9 figure plant was constructed so that a small tanker truck full of helium could be extracted every week. That's a lot of money spent to collect a tiny amount of product.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:37 pm to Chad504boy
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how about we ban space flights as well?
We need the spaceships so Jeff Bezos can go grab us some more helium.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:37 pm to fr33manator
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It’s literally in the air
The problem with atmospheric He is it is extremely expensive to capture. We have no chemical process to make He so extraction from the ground is the only way to cost-effectively obtain it. Once we release it into the air it becomes 20 times more expensive to get back.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:38 pm to ssgtiger
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I don’t understand. Why is it finite?
You serious Clark?
i'm pretty astounded by some of the responses in this thread...the periodic table is table of elements. this is 9th grade shite
do people really not understand what an element is? and where it comes from? and that they are ALL finite?
unreal
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:39 pm to lowhound
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worked on a project a couple years ago where they were extracting helium from a CO2 pipeline that was used for O&G.
Did you all have squeaky voices?
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:41 pm to lowhound
quote:correct, and extracting helium from a produced gas stream is expensive.
It's too expensive to draw Helium out of the atmosphere, and not very feasible. Most helium sources come from the ground. I worked on a project a couple years ago where they were extracting helium from a CO2 pipeline that was used for O&G extraction. Most helium sources come from the deep down in the earth. This 9 figure plant was constructed so that a small tanker truck full of helium could be extracted every week. That's a lot of money spent to collect a tiny amount of product
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:42 pm to Walking the Earth
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Did you all have squeaky voices?
I know you have to install the weight cells on the loading tank scales upside down. The tank was actually lighter when full.
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:43 pm to Dr RC
Learned this at dollar tree. They wouldn’t fill up balloons because of it. Also know that helium will frick up an Apple Watch.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:44 pm to fr33manator
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It’s literally in the air
They’ll figure out a way to harvest out of the air imo
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:45 pm to cgrand
No I get that it isn’t feasible at current prices.
I’m saying that if at some point we actually Need it and we deplete the earth bound sources, then perhaps we’ll find a feasible way to extract it.
Kind of like how there is gold in seawater in trace amounts. It’s just more expensive than it’s worth to extract it
I’m saying that if at some point we actually Need it and we deplete the earth bound sources, then perhaps we’ll find a feasible way to extract it.
Kind of like how there is gold in seawater in trace amounts. It’s just more expensive than it’s worth to extract it
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:45 pm to Dr RC
Why don't they just remove the 'O' from water and keep the H2??
Science tries to make everything SO hard.
Science tries to make everything SO hard.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:48 pm to LCA131
quote:your joke would be great, if we were talking about Hydrogen....
Why don't they just remove the 'O' from water and keep the H2??
Science tries to make everything SO hard.
Posted on 5/10/19 at 2:48 pm to LCA131
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keep the H2
they tried that, soccer moms wanted range rovers
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