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re: UPDATE: At least 290 people are dead in terrorist attacks in Sri Lanka this morning...
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:57 am to chRxis
Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:57 am to chRxis
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but then again, ALL religions have had their fair share of unjustifiable killing, at one time or another... and the thing to keep in mind is that its a perversion of whichever religion that's doing the killing...
I’m so tired of hearing this excuse after every new Muslim attack. Violence is NOT a perversion of Islam. Violence IS Islam. The vile brutal Wahhabism of Saudi Arabia IS Islam. Muhammad himself was a warlord.
Your comparison to Christianity would only make sense if Jesus himself led an army and Vatican City was burning heretics and preaching holy war. Of course not all Muslims are violent, but stop pretending that fundamentalist Muslims are fringe when it’s at the very heart of the religion.
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Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:57 am to BOSCEAUX
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BREAKING: U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says 'several' Americans have been killed in the Easter Sunday bombings in Sri Lanka.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:00 pm to BOSCEAUX
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It’s called evolution.
This is just retarded, wth does this have to do with evolution. Shouldn’t we all be “evolving” at basically the same time? Get this shite outta here
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:01 pm to biglego
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BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CRUSADES
Maybe it’s time for a new one
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:02 pm to Duffnshank
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It’s called evolution.
This is just retarded, wth does this have to do with evolution. Shouldn’t we all be “evolving” at basically the same time? Get this shite outta here
I’m talking about how other religions over time evolved away from violence except for Islam. They’re still stuck in barbarian times.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:02 pm to chRxis
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killing is killing, no matter where on the timeline it occurs, no matter who it is doing the killing... both instances are wrong, and as i said, are not the true identity of EITHER religion... that's what i'm trying to get at... there is blood on everyone's hands, despite what we may want to hear and/or believe...
Nowhere in the New Testament will you read a justification of holy war. To get to the very idea of a holy war, in order to preach the crusades 1,000 years later, religious leaders had to marry the ideas of pilgrimage with just war. The concept of Crusade is simply not a tenet of Christianity, unlike Islam. That, plus the growing secularism in the West, makes such comparisons trite.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:02 pm to Duffnshank
You and I are agreeing. One guy said religion has killed more people. I said in the history of time religion has killed comparable numbers to Marxism which has been around as a government style for less than 2 centuries.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:02 pm to biglego
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I’m so tired of hearing this excuse after every new Muslim attack. Violence is NOT a perversion of Islam. Violence IS Islam. The vile brutal Wahhabism of Saudi Arabia IS Islam. Muhammad himself was a warlord.
Your comparison to Christianity would only make sense if Jesus himself led an army and Vatican City was burning heretics and preaching holy war. Of course not all Muslims are violent, but stop pretending that fundamentalist Muslims are fringe when it’s at the very heart of the religion.
I agree.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:02 pm to biglego
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I’m so tired of hearing this excuse after every new Muslim attack. Violence is NOT a perversion of Islam. Violence IS Islam. The vile brutal Wahhabism of Saudi Arabia IS Islam. Muhammad himself was a warlord. Your comparison to Christianity would only make sense if Jesus himself led an army and Vatican City was burning heretics and preaching holy war. Of course not all Muslims are violent, but stop pretending that fundamentalist Muslims are fringe when it’s at the very heart of the religion.
Great to see sanity! Most of us still appreciate it!
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:03 pm to Oilfieldbiology
My apologies I read it wrong.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:10 pm to chRxis
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keep in mind, i'm not defending what these asshats (Muslim extremists) do, as it is absolutely, 100% wrong and needs to be stopped.... but to act like Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, or any other religion is squeaky fricking clean, on the timeline of human history, is just intellectually and factually dishonest... that's really all i'm trying to say...
Fair enough.
It’s just frustrating to see such storylines over and over, while at the same time we’re constantly preached to about the necessity of diversity and inclusion. And while watching Western Europe demographically shift.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:13 pm to biglego
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Nowhere in the New Testament will you read a justification of holy war
actually, Matthew 10:34, if taken out of context, like is often done by detractors of Christianity, can be used as justification against Christianity....
you know, kinda like how the passage we've discussed in the Qu'ran is taken out of context by detractors of Islam...
look, at the end of the day, they've all been wrong at some point, of doing wrong against others, in the name of their religion... that's just the facts... no matter how long ago, no matter the length of time, it doesn't make one "more wrong" than the other... they are all guilty of egregious acts committed in the name of their respective religion, no matter how you try to clean it up....
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:16 pm to Duffnshank
No lol
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:17 pm to RollTide1987
Aloha Snackbar again?
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:19 pm to genuineLSUtiger
It’s happening in the Minnesota
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:19 pm to biglego
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It’s just frustrating to see such storylines over and over,
i wholeheartedly agree, it's tiresome to read about mass murders, regardless of who's doing the murdering...
but ostracizing and demonizing an entire subset of people, for political and/or religious reasons, generally speaking, has NOT been a good thing for humanity... all i'm saying is there are shite heads of all faiths, lack of faith, etc... in every crowd, there are good and there are bad, and i'm not willing to condemn all Christians bc of Westboro, the KKK, etc., therefore i'm not willing to condemn all Muslims based on their extreme fringe believers.... at the heart of every religion, even as a non-believer, i do believe there is a want to do good in the world, not to act with evil intent... it's when it gets away from this belief, that belief becomes dangerous and divisive...
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:19 pm to tketaco
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I agree.
You do not have to agree when you are right. There is no other sane option.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:20 pm to chRxis
quote:That is true, but that isn’t the issue.
look, at the end of the day, they've all been wrong at some point, of doing wrong against others, in the name of their religion... that's just the facts
The issue is “now”.
What should do about the issue “now”?
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:20 pm to chRxis
But you can’t just write it off as a mistranslation and that millions of staunch Muslims are wrong about their faith. From the earliest times, jihad was a military struggle to expand the Islamic state. Again, Muhammad himself was a warlord. The current die hards of Islam believe this, and these aren’t fringe groups—they’re the ones who actually live in Mecca.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 12:21 pm to chRxis
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it doesn't make one "more wrong" than the other... they are all guilty of egregious acts committed in the name of their respective religion, no matter how you try to clean it up....
Yes. One is “more wrong” when it is STILL committing mass acts of terror and murder against the “infidels” in modern times.
Trying to equate things that happened hundreds of years ago to acts that are still carried out today is not only asinine, it’s borderline insane.
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