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re: The benefit of hindsight: Re-doing the #1 pick of the last 25 NFL Drafts

Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:34 am to
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:34 am to
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2011 Original #1: Cam Newton New #1: Vonn Miller


I’m shocked an Alabama fan would say this. Shocked I tell you!
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:36 am to
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Ngata's best year was 2010, in which he had 46 tackles and 5.5 sacks.

Williams' best year - 2007 - 43 tackles 14 sacks.

Williams had double digit sacks in 5 seasons, with two different teams. Also seasons with 9 and 8.5 sacks...


You do realize they play two different positions and are asked to do two different things, right?

That's like saying Blair Thomas is better than Lorenzo Neal because Thomas ran for more yards.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 10:03 am
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
3398 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:37 am to
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You do realize they play two different positions and are asked to do two different things, right?


This
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
20500 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:40 am to
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Yeah no one should ever be drafting a RB #1 overall


The Saints drafted George Rodgers over LT
:Facepalm:
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:42 am to
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2009
Original #1: Matthew Stafford
New #1: LeSean McCoy


The frick you say?


That draft was awful. You could argue that Julian Edelman is a top 5-10 pick in that redraft.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 9:43 am to
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The Saints drafted George Rodgers over LT
:Facepalm:



But they got Rickey Jackson in round 2. Passed over a HOFer and still got a HOFer at the same position.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
11480 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 11:34 am to
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That draft was awful. You could argue that Julian Edelman is a top 5-10 pick in that redraft.


Take a look a Edelman’s early career. He had less than 70 career catches through his first 4 seasons.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22400 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:00 pm to
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There’s really not a way to pick one over the other definitively, IMO.



Sure there is. During their era, LT was the arguably the second most valuable position behind QB. TE was not even in the discussion.

HOF LT >>>>>HOF TE. Really not even a discussion.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145353 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

2011
Original #1: Cam Newton
New #1: Vonn Miller
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2046 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:04 pm to
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Not to mention all the other guys who at least made a pro bowl or two but you pick Jamarcus Russell.


Joe Thomas had as many First Team All-Pro seasons as Jamarcus had wins as a starter (7).

Calvin Johnson and Adrian Peterson have combined for fewer turnovers (37) than JaMarcus (38). CJ/AP's combined total games: 284. JR: 31.

Good God JaMarcus sucked.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28119 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:05 pm to
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2016 Original #1: Jared Goff New #1: Carson Wentz


i'd give this an INC, wentz cannot stay healthy, and goff took his team to super bowl.

2 or 3 years down the road we can come back to this, right now it's a wash, INC
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:05 pm to
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Cam is in no way a perfect qb, but Qb's are hard to find and Cam has been a top half to top ten qb in the league. I would still lean towards taking Cam



Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:08 pm to
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i'd give this an INC, wentz cannot stay healthy, and goff took his team to super bowl.



Weren't there also reports that Wentz's teammates don't like him?
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35770 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:10 pm to
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Pace was basically an All Pro from his rookie year at a position much more valuable than TE


He was basically an All Pro the minute he stepped on the Ohio State campus.

He was only the second true freshman ever to start on opening day for the Buckeyes football team.

He became the first sophomore to ever win the Lombardi, and he followed that up the next season by winning the Lombardi, Outland and finishing fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting. Said former Ohio State coach John Cooper: "Orlando Pace is not only the best offensive lineman I have ever coached, but he is the best I have ever seen."


Anthony Munoz and Tony Boselli are the only ones to challenge Pace as the greatest CFB offensive lineman of all-time.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28119 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:24 pm to
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2014 Original #1: Jadeveon Clowney

New #1: Khalil Mack


Nope, Aaron Donald is the BEST player in the League, and he plays DT. He dominates an OL from the middle. W/O him, the Rams don't sniff the NFC title game.

Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
37422 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:25 pm to
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or Rob Gronkowski
TE #1 overall?
Posted by TheGasMan
Member since Oct 2014
3149 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 12:39 pm to
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I love that gif sooooooo much


What about this one?
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

The Saints drafted George Rodgers over LT
:Facepalm:


But they got Rickey Jackson in round 2. Passed over a HOFer and still got a HOFer at the same position.




Rogers was a 2 time All Pro, Rookie of the Year & only 2nd to Eric Dickerson in rookie yards by a RB( 1,674 by Rogers). And the Saints pick up a poor man's LT in Jackson ( more durable version ) .

Actually a sound draft by the Saints even in hindsight.

Just seems LT could handle his coke better than George Rogers.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 2:42 pm to
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Original #1: Cam Newton  
New #1: Vonn Miller  

2010 



Cam is in no way a perfect qb, but Qb's are hard to find and Cam has been a top half to top ten qb in the league. I would still lean towards taking Cam



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n his rookie year, Newton broke all-time NFL rookie records for passing and rushing yards. He became the first NFL quarterback to throw for 400 yards in his first game, shattering Peyton Manning's first-game record by 120 yards. He also broke Otto Graham's 61-year-old record for passing yards by any quarterback in an NFL debut.[4] Newton went on to become the first rookie quarterback to throw for 4,000 yards in a season.[5] He also ran for 14 touchdowns, more in a single season than any quarterback in NFL history, breaking Steve Grogan's 35-year-old record.[6]

In 2015, Newton became the first quarterback in NFL history to throw for at least 30 touchdowns and rush for 10 in the same season (35 passing, 10 rushing).[7] He also became the only quarterback ever to have 300 yards passing, 5 touchdown passes, and 


Posted by thekid
Anna, Tx
Member since May 2006
3942 posts
Posted on 3/26/19 at 2:53 pm to
2003 draft must have sucked if we can’t do better than Carson Palmer #1
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