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re: How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?

Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by Tiger2424
Member since Nov 2015
1203 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:55 pm to
Ok so what does the “offer” mean? Not your interpretation on what it means? What does it actually mean since you apparently heard the entire conversation and know?
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9954 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 1:57 pm to
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How can anyone defend the conversations from the tapes?

Dick. Dick, Dick, Dick. Come on Dick.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6184 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 2:15 pm to
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..that is why WW has not met with the admins. He does not know what hard evidence they have


Dude, they have no evidence. Do you think the FBI is calling JA and FKA and turning over their investigation into Adidas to LSU officials? Even the FBI doesn't have evidence against Wade since they weren't investigating him. The NCAA has no evidence. LSU has no evidence. Yahoo has an article.
Posted by ptljc
Pineville, la
Member since Jan 2007
28 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:13 pm to
I really like this post and I basically agree. However, the fbi is not after the coaches who they are content to leave to the ncaa. The fbi is after the player reps/tennis shoe companies who are defrauding the feds/irs. There will probably be some fallout against coaches/schools who the ncaa can prove "cheating" against. I hope they have no evidence against Wade/lsu.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2144 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 4:22 pm to
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Do you think the FBI is calling JA and FKA and turning over their investigation into Adidas to LSU officials?

Assuredly the FBI is not.... but all bets are off when the criminal investigation comes to a conclusion.
Posted by LSUfanaddict
somewhere in TX
Member since Apr 2007
2095 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 5:13 pm to
So basically, even though he committed a violation, there has to be evidence, for instance, of money changing hands?
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6184 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 5:14 pm to
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There will probably be some fallout against coaches/schools who the ncaa can prove "cheating" against.


Barring revelations of strippers and escorts ala Louisville, I think we are ok. After 2 years and approx 50 programs implicated, including almost every blue blood program, the NCAA doesn't have the manpower or the will. If LSU doesn't commit hari kari, if the administration would take a low profile ala Kansas, if they would quit publicly condemning our coach and drawing national attention after every tournament win, we will probably come out unscathed.
Posted by ptljc
Pineville, la
Member since Jan 2007
28 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 5:21 pm to
I am with you on this.
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
651 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 5:24 pm to
This may have been said on here, but what if Wade is working with the FBI on that particular phone call? Just a thought.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22426 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 5:47 pm to
How can anyone blurt out stupid fricking blame when I know for fricking damn sure you have not heard the full conversation. We have got some stupid fricking fans Jesus


Please ban yourself from all things LSU. I hear Arkansas needs fans like you
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 5:49 pm
Posted by FreeState
Member since Jun 2012
3198 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:04 pm to
The NCAA won't go after the blue bloods (UK, Kansas, Duke, NC) as others have pointed out. They had their shot at them and for whatever reason, they were exonerated.

Those same blue bloods will do whatever it takes to keep an LSU, Auburn, eventually TN and others down so they can continue to be........blue bloods.

As to the "tape", how much was said before or after the snippit we know of?

To me, a 'strong arse offer' could mean payments or it could mean "you will get a full education, you will play as a freshman enough to position you to go pro, and we will do whatever we can to promote you so you can".

Now, maybe I'm wrong, but that's a good lawyered up answer and who can dispute it?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18184 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 6:58 pm to
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To me, a 'strong arse offer' could mean payments or it could mean "you will get a full education, you will play as a freshman enough to position you to go pro, and we will do whatever we can to promote you so you can".
that's embarrassing
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:11 pm to
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To me, a 'strong arse offer' could mean payments or it could mean "you will get a full education, you will play as a freshman enough to position you to go pro, and we will do whatever we can to promote you so you can".


Why is he discussing it with a guy everyone in college coaching knows is a bagman supplying money for players from athletic apparel companies, and how does the player's "mother get a cut" of that scholarship? The context is pretty hard to ignore.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:14 pm to
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Will cannot reveal because of pending trial.

Wrong. WW chooses not to speak about the tapes to his employer. WW is a "potential" witness for the defense. WW is not under any legal order to remain silent. WW is not in any potential legal trouble (possible NCAA rule infractions).
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
12298 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:14 pm to
Hey Lou have you heard the tape???? Didn’t think so chief
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48246 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:15 pm to
We don’t know what he was discussing, all we have are a couple of quotes taken out of context and pieced together for affect. If they had enough to nail Wade they would’ve released all of it.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48246 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:16 pm to
Not true, he hasn’t declined to speak to his employer he’s declined to speak to the NCAA for obvious reasons.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:19 pm to
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Even the FBI doesn't have evidence against Wade since they weren't investigating him. The NCAA has no evidence. LSU has no evidence.

How do you know all of this? I don't know if they do or if they don't. I happen to believe these entities (LSU, NCAA, etc) have more info/evidence that we are aware of.
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:22 pm to
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Not true, he hasn’t declined to speak to his employer he’s declined to speak to the NCAA for obvious reasons.

What planet are you on? JA & FKing ordered WW to attend a meeting and he refused. LSU invited the NCAA to the meeting as well, however, that is none of WW's business. His employer can invite whomever they desire to whatever meeting they desire.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
48246 posts
Posted on 3/27/19 at 7:28 pm to
I’m from earth where facts are what’s measured not made up fantasies. A. You’re either ignorant or lying about the meeting parameters, Wade originally agreed to meet with LSU that first Friday morning, LSU then changed the meeting and rescheduled it so that the NCAA could be present. LSU also said Wade wouldn’t be allowed to have his lawyers at the meeting. So you’re wrong Wade had and still has every intention of meeting with his bosses they’re the ones holding this up by insisting that the NCAA be present. B. It absolutely is Wade’s business as to whether the NCAA is present or not, the FBIs case involves 47 other programs, Wade cannot give the NCAA any information about this case without altering the case and possibly damaging it beyond repair. That’s why his lawyers have advised him not to attend any meeting with the NCAA present. Getting your info from tiger rant rumors then passing them off as fact is never a good idea buddy.
This post was edited on 3/27/19 at 7:32 pm
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