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re: Mark Ingram to Ravens 3 yr 15 mill. (declined Saints 4.5 APY)

Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:56 am to
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:56 am to
Compared to the other backs on the market this year, yes he does.

Murray included.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:56 am to
Jackson will still get a lot of carries in that offense for as long as he holds up.

Ravens are really counting on him becoming RGIII if he never fricked his knee.

Also, we definitely want to be able to dumb this guy for a cheaper option when Kamara’s deal is up. I bet Murray’s deal does not have a lot of guarantees money on the back end.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 11:59 am
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
856 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 11:58 am to
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when was the last time we needed 1 or 2 yards and he could just get that for us?


This, THIS, and more THIS!! It's was very frustrating knowing that 3rd and 2 were obviously passing downs for us.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:00 pm to
No he doesn’t
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18741 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:03 pm to
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Murray's deal is probably realistically like 3 yrs for 9-10

And with the Saints signing Murray, Baltimore had no one to bid against, and Ingram had no one to meet his (reported) demand.

It's quite possible Ingram signed for less than what he wanted from NOLA, so let's not just assume the Saints could have signed him for the same amount. FA moves fast, and the team appeared to have acted decisively for whatever reason.

That said, it's disappointing the two sides couldn't agree given his importance to the team, locker room presence, and chemistry with Kamara and others.
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:03 pm to
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Saints preserved Deuce's all time rushing stat



Don't test positive for banned substances, he passes him last December.
Posted by ShlikStyck
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Member since Jan 2005
3799 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:05 pm to
I don't believe Ingram and S. Payton got along particularly well. Mark was pretty selfish and complained a lot when he lost touches.
Posted by HollierThanThou
Member since Jan 2012
6209 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:08 pm to
Need teams bidding against each other.

He obviously didn’t have that.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64471 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:09 pm to
Strange if true.

Is it possible his dumbass exaggerated the ravens offer hoping for a better counter offer and then got stuck with the ravens?
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:09 pm to
Murray 7.2 gtd
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:11 pm to
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Maybe he misjudged the market and didn’t accept an offer from us thinking he was going to get more

based on the tweets yesterday, this seems like the issue

Saints didn't want to wait and possibly miss Murray and Ingram

Ingram thought he was getting at least $8M/year (based on hi s agent's leaks that came out on Twitter)

i imagine if he knew he'd get $5M/year, we would have gotten the deal done
Posted by LSU999
Member since Nov 2012
9119 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:13 pm to
I hope he does well. He improved on his fumbling and was a key player in a lot of games in 2017 and 2018 when others were getting all the glory.

Unfortunately, with the type of weather they have in Baltimore and a read option offense, his fumbling problems may come back to light.

I hated when we drafted him, but after he settled in I liked him a whole lot. He sometimes tried too hard for extra yards and fumbled the ball, but he improved his game year after year and gave his all it and has passion for the game . Mark carried the team on his back when given the opportunities and he was damn good for us. I wish him the best and hope he continues to improve.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:13 pm to
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You telling me we couldn't give him that money?
Let’s not act like the saints turned him down for that. He probably had a higher number and the saints said kick rocks. Went out and looked for more saints moved on to Murray. Ingram left with no choice but to take what he got.

Over valued himself like Bell.
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
90514 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:14 pm to
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Don't test positive for banned substances, he passes him last December.


Or maybe he pulls a hammy in the first game and doesn't.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21788 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:15 pm to
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No he doesn’t



I mean, whatever you say dude
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
4830 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:15 pm to
This is not a good look for the Saints no matter how you cut it. It makes the team look petty. Mark's teammates were all on twitter praying a deal got worked out. If it was only $500K difference then thats fricked. His teammates would have known if there was other issue preventing the signed and not wishing the Saints would get it done. Really bad look here.
Posted by Swagga
504
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:17 pm to
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This is not a good look for the Saints no matter how you cut it. It makes the team look petty.


Saints did exactly what they should have done. Offered Ingram a deal, he walked thinking he could get more. They signed the guy the had tapped as a replacement. The saints can’t do anything about the market for Ingram tanking.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278674 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:19 pm to
per sean fazende

Saints offered 4/$17 but only $5mil guaranteed.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278674 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:19 pm to
i suspected BAL's guaranteed money will close to double that
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11749 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:20 pm to
He clearly did not want to return bad enough.
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