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F. Kings “Holistic Admissions” policy failing badly
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:31 am
Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:31 am
If you remember the controversy last summer, it came out that F. King changed the admissions policy of LSU to promote his SJW style Holistic Admissions. Well, shocker, it turns out that students who don’t meet minimum standards don’t do as well in school and tend to not return or graduate. Chalk that one up to “no shite Sherlock.”
In other shocking news, athletes dont have this issue. Apparently private tutors, taking sports communications classes and having professors give you A’s makes you immune from flunking out of school.
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In a first look at college freshmen admitted without meeting minimum standards, the Board of Regents found Monday that students enrolled by “exception” had lower grades, were more likely to leave early and didn’t graduate at the same rate as those who met the criteria.
Looking at students admitted in the Fall of 2016 and 2017, the Regents determined that 2,315 freshmen failed to meet one of the minimum admissions criteria set by the Regents. The grade point averages for those students, which averaged 2.0, lagged behind the 41,580 students who met the minimum standards and ended the first term with an average 2.7 percent..
About two-thirds of those admitted by exception in 2016 returned for classes in 2017, compared to 82 percent of the regular admitted students. And 32 percent of the exception students from 2010 and 2011 graduated in six years while half of the regular admitted students did, according to the report.
“It’s critical that we understand the characteristics of students admitted by exception, but more importantly, how they perform,” Regents Chairman Marty Chabert said. “We do a disservice to students if we do not place them in the best environment to succeed. However, sometimes life events make it difficult for our incoming freshman to meet all the requirements.”
Chabert said this study was the first step in an investigation to see if the state’s public universities are following the Regents admission rules and whether changes to the standards need to be considered. The 16-member board oversees policies for all 14 of the state’s public four-universities.
The report was requested by a state Senate resolution and was spurred by the revelation that LSU was no longer rejecting applications of students who failed to meet a minimum score on college board tests, such as the ACT.
In the controversy that ensued, LSU President F. King Alexander reported that the flagship campus in Baton Rouge had admitted almost twice as many exception students as allowed by the Regents. In setting the criteria in 2001.
In other shocking news, athletes dont have this issue. Apparently private tutors, taking sports communications classes and having professors give you A’s makes you immune from flunking out of school.
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The survey also found that athletes admitted by exception did better academically.
The findings for the athletes admitted with exceptions to the Regents minimum admission standards underscored the need for the university to support those students. The institutions routinely provide tutoring, study halls and other services to ensure the athletes remain academically eligible, said Regent Collis Temple III, who played basketball for LSU from 1999 to 2002.
Athletes who didn’t meet the admission standards finished their first term with 2.4 grade point averages and 81 percent returned the following year, according to the study.
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Posted on 1/15/19 at 4:47 am to jbgleason
FKA continues to drive LSU into the ground
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:17 am to jbgleason
He will just blame you and your white privilege to justify this stupid shite. You all know the drill.
This post was edited on 1/15/19 at 5:18 am
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:23 am to Lithium
Yeah, but hey, LSU got the money from whatever loans or grants these kids had to pay tuition. Never mind about the waste or debt the students may have, as long as LSU got that tuition money.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:29 am to jbgleason
I love this comment:
So we put people who are obviously unqualified and more inclined to fail in the perfect position to fail.
“Life events”? Like not studying or passing the (putrid) high school reqs in this state? Hey Marty the world needs ditch diggers too. Maybe they can run for state office. Sounds like that’s where all the academic drop outs are ending up.
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We do a disservice to students if we do not place them in the best environment to succeed. However, sometimes life events make it difficult for our incoming freshman to meet all the requirements.”
So we put people who are obviously unqualified and more inclined to fail in the perfect position to fail.
“Life events”? Like not studying or passing the (putrid) high school reqs in this state? Hey Marty the world needs ditch diggers too. Maybe they can run for state office. Sounds like that’s where all the academic drop outs are ending up.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:51 am to jbgleason
If they cant succeed in the standard curriculum, the standard curriculum needs to be adjusted downward or these students need additional resources.
Sadly, one of these will probably be the response.
Sadly, one of these will probably be the response.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 5:52 am to jbgleason
LSU wouldn’t take my kid because he didn’t have enough apostrophes in his first name
Luckily the university of Louisiana still takes all American kids. Better engineering program too
Luckily the university of Louisiana still takes all American kids. Better engineering program too
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:00 am to jbgleason
Next will be a move to Holistic Grading. Problem solved!
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:27 am to tigerinthebueche
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Yeah, but hey, LSU got the money from whatever loans or grants these kids had to pay tuition. Never mind about the waste or debt the students may have, as long as LSU got that tuition money.
This right fricking here
Posted on 1/15/19 at 6:29 am to Creamer
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If they cant succeed in the standard curriculum, the standard curriculum needs to be adjusted downward or these students need additional resources.
How about dont let them in when they dont qualify....life aint free. Once they are out of college no one is going to adjust something downward for them to succeed....no one will offer additional help.
Granted...there are some in that sample that will succeed and thats great! why not help usher them to BRCC or a smaller school with a detailed path to transfer INTO LSU once they show they can perform in a college environment.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:05 am to jbgleason
LSU’s has an identity problem.
On the one hand, it’s supposed to be a flagship university that stands as the place for the best and brightest in Louisiana (and other states) to go to college.
On the other, it’s a public university with an old, open-access tradition that people still don’t want to let go of. Plus, its funding is shite.
So, we have a university that caters to the low achieving, along with all the other local universities in Louisiana. That’s great, but you know who goes under-served in that situation? The best and brightest, who, after looking forward to attending a university that will invest in and inspire them, find themselves surrounded by dimwits. At some point, we have to serve these kids properly.
But we won’t. Because the vote of a genius is exactly as valuable as the vote of an idiot. Politicians discovered long ago that it’s easier to win the votes of idiots than geniuses. So that’s why we bend over backward to accommodate them. In everything.
On the one hand, it’s supposed to be a flagship university that stands as the place for the best and brightest in Louisiana (and other states) to go to college.
On the other, it’s a public university with an old, open-access tradition that people still don’t want to let go of. Plus, its funding is shite.
So, we have a university that caters to the low achieving, along with all the other local universities in Louisiana. That’s great, but you know who goes under-served in that situation? The best and brightest, who, after looking forward to attending a university that will invest in and inspire them, find themselves surrounded by dimwits. At some point, we have to serve these kids properly.
But we won’t. Because the vote of a genius is exactly as valuable as the vote of an idiot. Politicians discovered long ago that it’s easier to win the votes of idiots than geniuses. So that’s why we bend over backward to accommodate them. In everything.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:07 am to tigerinthebueche
That is exactly the point. It is cheaper for LSU to have freshman classes of 200 people than upper level courses with 20. It is a money making scheme that hurts the unqualified incoming student.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:10 am to jbgleason
F King is just another con artist thriving in today's society.
Being real is starting to not pay. Conning people is what is seems to get people ahead.
Being real is starting to not pay. Conning people is what is seems to get people ahead.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:15 am to jbgleason
quote:Wer relly dum
Chabert said this study was the first step in an investigation to see if the state’s public universities are following the Regents (sic) admission rules and whether changes to the standards need to be considered. The 16-member board oversees policies for all 14 of the state’s public four-universities.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:17 am to jbgleason
An idiot doing something idiotic, true liberalism.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:27 am to SpqrTiger
quote:That is essentially all public schools, at a minimum.
That’s great, but you know who goes under-served in that situation? The best and brightest, who, after looking forward to attending a university that will invest in and inspire them, find themselves surrounded by dimwits. At some point, we have to serve these kids properly.
Our society goes out of its way to cater to the lower common denominator at the expense of the gifted.
Posted on 1/15/19 at 7:30 am to jbgleason
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students enrolled by “exception” had lower grades, were more likely to leave early and didn’t graduate at the same rate as those who met the criteria.
Who could've predicted this?!
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