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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time

Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:10 am to
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:10 am to
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2014 to start, where 6 teams had a “legit claim”

That was easy

Had to rack my brain for a whole entire 4 seasons



And further destroy already minimal credibility.

So, at the end of the 2014 season, TCU and Baylor had legitimate claims as the best team in the country? Okie dokie.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47864 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:20 am to
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2014 to start, where 6 teams had a “legit claim”


2014 wasn't that long ago. Baylor and TCU really had no claim, and FSU only had one bc they were undefeated

let's say you have the fluke year with 5 undefeateds. you look for other ways to separate 2 or 3 of them as above the others (analytics, e-- t---)
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47864 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:27 am to
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Maybe “arbitrarily” isn’t the right word. Let’s go with “highly subjectively”.

If #4 wins the championship 40% of the time, it’s a little odd that people believe that #5 should have no shot.


you want teams to want to be #1, not #4
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7885 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:48 am to
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let's say you have the fluke year with 5 undefeateds



Has that ever happened in the history of college football?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95949 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:22 am to
quote:

So, at the end of the 2014 season, TCU and Baylor had legitimate claims as the best team in the country?
absolutely
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59134 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:28 am to
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Do you even sample size bro? Im not techinally using a sample. I am using the entire population of the CFP history


In that case, there’s no need to expand, we can just have Alabama and Clemson play every year since 80% of the time they have played and the winner was the National Champs
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95949 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:29 am to
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80% of the time they have played and the winner was the National Champs
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:35 am to
"This Alabama Team Is The Best CFB Team I've Ever Seen"
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59134 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:55 am to
Is it not true that the Alabama-Clemson winner was won 80% of the playoffs?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95949 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:58 am to
It’s all true the playoff committee has chosen the winner 100% of the time
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:40 am to
Pride thinks teams like ucf and Mich deserve playoffs even after the fact that it was determined they didn't belong

It's virtue signaling based on emotion. Facts are irrelevant

Something you find a lot with liberals
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95949 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 8:51 am to
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Pride thinks teams like ucf and Mich deserve playoffs even after the fact that it was determined they didn't belong

It's virtue signaling based on emotion. Facts are irrelevant

Something you find a lot with liberals


The political reference out of nowhere
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59134 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:07 am to
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It’s all true the playoff committee has chosen the winner 100% of the time


That’s not the same thing, if you want to say the 4seed has won 40% then why is the fact that the winner of Alabama-Clemson winning 80% of the playoffs not a valid statistic?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37168 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:11 am to
In baseball and basketball, the playoff teams are announced and games start 4-5 days later.

In CFP, it's 21 days ore more between announcement and games.

A lot can happen in that time period.

Then, after 3 weeks between a conf champ games and the semis, you get 6-14 days between the semis and the finals.

The whole schedule is screwed up.

I really think they need to just remove the bowls from the CFP. Have semifinals at the home campus of the higher seed, on the Saturday after the conf champ games, and have the CFP champ at a pre-determined site the Sat after that.

Then just run the bowl games whenever.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95949 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:13 am to
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That’s not the same thing, if you want to say the 4seed has won 40% then why is the fact that the winner of Alabama-Clemson winning 80% of the playoffs not a valid statistic?


It just doesnt really combat my argument.

How does two of the chosen teams winning 80% of the time combat the potential best team may have been left out? Hell, the same team could have won 100% of the time and it still doesnt combat my argument
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111169 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:16 am to
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If #4 wins the championship 40% of the time, it’s a little odd that people believe that #5 should have no shot.
The NFL had a run of 6 seeds winning titles over a short timespan.

I didn't hear you or anyone else ranting about how they should expand the field because #7 would have a shot.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95949 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:18 am to
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I didn't hear you or anyone else ranting about how they should expand the field because #7 would have a shot
Once again, like I have explained multiple times, because the teams left out had a clear defined way to make the playoffs based solely on what they did on the field

I personally, and many others, will no longer complain if the teams left out all had a clear defined path when the season started that relied on nothing but football results
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 9:19 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111169 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:20 am to
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I personally, and many others, will no longer complain if the teams left out all had a clear defined path when the season started that relied on nothing but football results
20+ team playoff, here we come!


Can't wait to see FAU and Middle Tenn St in the postseason.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95949 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:25 am to
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20+ team playoff, here we come!


Can't wait to see FAU and Middle Tenn St in the postseason.
Nope. 8 teams


I already said the non power 5 teams need to move on, or accept it. There is nothing in common with them and the P5



Look, I know you love the "gotcha moments", but why dont you just read my actual posts in here and try and have just one real discussion.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111169 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:26 am to
quote:

I already said the non power 5 teams need to move on, or accept it. There is nothing in common with them and the P5



Look, I know you love the "gotcha moments", but why dont you just read my actual posts in here and try and have just one real discussion
You can't say this after saying the G5 just needs to "accept it" and completely unravel your own point.
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