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castorinho
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
This is good and all, but it's just not enough sample size to draw this kinds of conclusions.


Scruffy
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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So you are saying they are guessing and dont really know who the frick the best team is?
Who would expect that?


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lsupride87
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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if you were the best team, you would have been top 4 in December

So, if in December of 2014, the committee decided to rank TCU ahead of OSU, then OSU all of a sudden is not the best team?


OSU was that close to not getting in. A decision of 13 people sitting around


And TCU still may have been the best team that year. They were absolutely legit


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lsupride87
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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This is good and all, but it's just not enough sample size to draw this kinds of conclusions.
I can agree to that. But how many years do we need to wait and see?


shel311
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
Their 1st team has won 0%


Maybe we should expand it a little. Just a thought


The committee's job is to take the 4 best teams, that's it.

Not sure why the #1 team not winning would matter. How much of a difference do you really think there between a #1 and #2 team?

When games are played, it's not always as simple as Team A is better than Team B, so Team A will win every time.


DisplacedBuckeye
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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if you were the best team, you would have been top 4 in December


Alabama backdoored their way in last season after we beat the committee's #4 team. Are you saying Alabama wasn't the best team in the country last year? I'd be easy to convince on that, but I'm curious where you stand on it.


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DisplacedBuckeye
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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The committee's job is to take the 4 best teams, that's it.


Wrong.


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lsupride87
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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When games are played, it's not always as simple as Team A is better than Team B, so Team A will win every time.

I agree

That is why I dont think picking 4 teams in a league full of 100 teams with what we call 5 power conferences is a large enough sample when cross conf games are limited


castorinho
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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I can agree to that. But how many years do we need to wait and see?
I don't know. But the computers, which you're a fan of, have had the same #1s as the committee going into the playoffs.


Mr Perfect
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
Should have picked the three teams who didn't lose

Don't lose and then whine afterwards.

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H-Town Tiger
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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or maybe the committee ranks teams in a way that doesn't lead to good outcomes


Nah, we’ve had 5 playoffs, so we really don’t have a good sample size to say 1 way or the other, but the 2 years the 4 seed won: 2017 all 4 teams had a loss, Alabama was the 1 all year but lost the last week and the first year when it was new, I also think conference stereotypes played a big role, in 2014, the SEC was overrated and B1G was considered bad after like week, but in retrospect Ohio State was a better team they were also young, what was it 10 of the first 80 picks in the draft a full year later

The other 3 years were all Bama-Clemson as the 1-2, with the 2 winning all 3, that’s an odd coincidence but 2s winning 1-2 games is not unusual especially a bunch in a short time the 2002, 03, 05, 06, 07, 08 BCS the 2 seed won
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shel311
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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I agree

That is why I dont think picking 4 teams in a league full of 100 teams with what we call 5 power conferences is a large enough sample when cross conf games are limited
To be comparable with other leagues, they'd likely need 32, is that what you're asking for?


Because if 4 out of 120+ isn't enough, I don't see how 8 is the magic number then. And if #6 and #7 win a couple of times, then will you push for 16?


21JumpStreet
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
70 - 7 playoff games incoming.


DisplacedBuckeye
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
Is that the computer rankings, or the simulated BcS rankings?


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Mr Perfect
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
That's what these people want

Pedestrian schools competing for titles

Delaying the inevitable.

Expansion to 100 still gives us Clemson Vs Bama at the end of the day
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chalmetteowl
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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Because if 4 out of 120+ isn't enough, I don't see how 8 is the magic number then. And if #6 and #7 win a couple of times, then will you push for 16?
it's really 4 out of about 70


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lsupride87
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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But the computers, which you're a fan of, have had the same #1s as the committee going into the playoffs.
I know

My ultimate wish is you set a guaranteed way for a power 5 team to know what they need to do (sorry lower teams, you should form your own league or accept it. There just isnt equity at all in the differences)

8 teams, conference champs are guaranteed with 3 wild cards


Are there quirky years where someone like Northwester wins the big 10 this year? Of course. But every single p5 team had a clear cut way to play their way in on the field without the opinions of any human being or computer


Also, with the space for 3 wildcards, that almost entirely clears up the "quirk" from above anyway


I understand many will hate my opinion, but I can sleep well and I think players can too knowing they 100% have a chance to settle it on the field when the season starts


theducks
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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Because if 4 out of 120+ isn't enough, I don't see how 8 is the magic number then. And if #6 and #7 win a couple of times, then will you push for 16?


Exactly. Also, how do you decide between #6-10? Maybe #9 was the best team that year but they weren’t given the chance. That’s the logic Pride is using here with TCU above.

I also find it funny that the two most controversial #4 seeds (2014 OSU and 2017 Bama) are the only #4 seed to win. Meanwhile the “deserving” 4 seeds have been massively outmatched by their opponents.


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Mr Perfect
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
Just go to 8 teams and make the Ohio State- Michigan game meaningless this year

Give this man a prize folks


DisplacedBuckeye
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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
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Ohio State- Michigan game meaningless


This is why y'all continue to lose.


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