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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:27 am to shel311
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:27 am to shel311
quote:Yes I can, I just did. There just isnt anything in common with the P5 conferences and the others. I do not think it makes any sense to keep pretending it does. I think personally they should form their own playoffs if the want, or be happy with the potential of the 3 wild card spots.
You can't say this after saying the G5 just needs to "accept it" and completely unravel your own point.
I really dont understand why you cant just discuss this, instead of posting !!!!!!! and emojis without even reading all the posts first
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 9:29 am
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:28 am to Mr Perfect
quote:
liberals
You're weird.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:28 am to shel311
Until you make all conferences equal with equal amount of teams and qualifications, it's such a dumb argument
For starters, the big 12 has an advantage simply because they have fewer teams than the other conferences.
For starters, the big 12 has an advantage simply because they have fewer teams than the other conferences.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:30 am to lsupride87
quote:I can, but when your point is "they just don't count" then there isn't much to discuss as you're not even trying at that point.
I really dont understand why you cant just discuss this
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:31 am to shel311
quote:
20+ team playoff, here we come!
Can't wait to see FAU and Middle Tenn St in the postseason.
I've always found this line of thinking hilarious. That somehow adding more teams to the 1A playoff is a travesty, event though we readily accept larger playoffs in every other level of every sport.
NFL - 12 out of 32 teams in the post season (38%)
MLB - 6 out of 30 teams (20%)
NBA - 16 or 30 (53%, which is admittedly a joke)
FCS - 24 of 125 teams (19%)
FBS - 4 of 130 (3%)
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:31 am to shel311
quote:Ok man
I can, but when your point is "they just don't count" then there isn't much to discuss as you're not even trying at that point
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:32 am to lsupride87
quote:I don't now why you just can't discuss this.
Ok man
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 9:34 am
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:34 am to shel311
quote:I have
I don't now why you just can't discuss this.
non power 5 teams should start their own playoffs
p5 champs make it
3 wildcards
That is what I think should happen
There arent holes in my argument, no gotcha moments like you have desperately reached for.
One can disagree with what I want, but I am not sure why you have been so weird about it in here
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:36 am to lsupride87
quote:Well, there actually is, since that's not the argument of your OP, and you changed the nature of your argument when the logic of your OP didn't really work.
There arent holes in my argument, no gotcha moments like you have desperately reached for.
There also is a great, big, huge hole in your argument when you throw in "the others can just accept it." LIke, gaping.
Then, you completely changed from "we should expand a little" to "well, here's something else we should do."
I'd think you can even admit it's kind of hard to keep up with what you're trying to say when someone raises a good point in regards to your OP, then you shuffle on to a completely different stance.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 9:38 am
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:37 am to shel311
quote:Ok
Well, there actually is, since that's not the argument of your OP, and you changed the nature of your argument when the logic of your OP didn't really work.
At that point, you completely changed from "we should expand a little" to "well, here's something else we should do."
I'd think you can even admit it's kind of hard to keep up with what you're trying to say when someone raises a good point in regards to your OP, then you shuffle on to a completely different stance.
Now that you got it out of the way, and you can start your day fresh, how do you feel about
non power 5 teams should start their own playoffs
p5 champs make it
3 wildcards
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:39 am to lsupride87
I'm all for a P5 only league, but it's never going to happen(at least not any time remotely soon) so I don't really view it as a realistic option, thus it's not really worth putting much time into it.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:39 am to Wayne Campbell
quote:
I've always found this line of thinking hilarious. That somehow adding more teams to the 1A playoff is a travesty, event though we readily accept larger playoffs in every other level of every sport.
That is because what college football prides itself on is having a regular season that is FAR more intense and high stakes than any other sport. Teams have to be perfect and can't afford to rest starters or sleep walk through games. One loss, and you're likely out of the running or forever at the mercy of other teams losing to give you a shot. That is one of the reason college football games between top 10 teams are so much more compelling than regular season games between two playoff bound NFL teams. In the NFL, the loser is likely to still make the playoffs, but the game matters some for bragging rights and seeding. In College Football, the loser is likely eliminated...in WEEK ONE!!!
If one expands beyond 8 teams, then you really start getting into 2 loss teams having a shot at regularly being in the playoff. The more losses a team can withstand while still being "in the hunt", the less compelling each game along the way is, especially with the way college football schedules. Most teams only play a fraction of good teams each year. If teams with 2 or more losses are getting into the playoffs, then you can "afford" to get beat by the good teams you play and merely beat the weak teams on your schedule and get rewarded.
Imagine if LSU made the playoff after beating A&M this year. They would have lost to 2 of the 3 best teams they played, yet still would be rewarded. Those games would have meant that much less because losing wouldn't be the "death sentence" it is now.
I think scheduling needs to be addressed before expanding the playoff. We need an even number of power conferences each with the same number of teams. Then, we need a split between the P5 and G5 where P5 teams are playing no more than one game per year against a G5 program and all other games are against the P5. Conferences need to have a standardized number of conference games. Once this happens, then I'll entertain possibly expanding the playoff to 6 or 8 teams.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:40 am to lsupride87
quote:but they don't want to
non power 5 teams should start their own playoffs
Because, like everyone else, they love money.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:42 am to castorinho
quote:And thats fine. But IMHO then I am completely fine with them not being treated the same as the p5 schools
but they don't want to
Because, like everyone else, they love money.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:45 am to lsupride87
quote:And back to my point, the 8 team model with 3 Wildcards and 5 auto-bids now still doesn't really solve any of our problems.
And thats fine. But IMHO then I am completely fine with them not being treated the same as the p5 schools
UCF still gets left out. I know you made it clear you don't really care if they're not P5, but I see no reason to expand to 8 with auto-bids if the system will still leave undefeated teams out of the 8 team playoff.
If that's still going to happen, I'll gladly prefer to stick with the 4 team playoff.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 9:49 am to shel311
quote:
And back to my point, the 8 team model with 3 Wildcards and 5 auto-bids now still doesn't really solve any of our problems.
quote:
UCF still gets left out.
Because I don’t care about UCF
It solves my problem
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 9:52 am
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:02 am to lsupride87
quote:I'm not wrong, UCF would not make it. They would have been the 4th wildcard. Further, they would have been ranked in the top 8, but not made the 8 team playoff.
Because I don’t care about UCF
It solves my problem
Fwiw, your post kinda proves that I can and have been discussing this perfectly fine, you've just gotten a little bent out of shape because you just don't like that I don't agree that you can say your system solves certain things then just say "I don't care about that" when it clearly doesn't solve certain things.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:02 am to kingbob
quote:
Teams have to be perfect
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:04 am to shel311
quote:It only doesnt solve the non-power 5 angle, but it is absolutely ridiculous we are keeping up the charade of non p5 schools being relatable to the p5
when it clearly doesn't solve certain things.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 10:05 am to shel311
quote:
UCF would not make it. They would have been the 4th wildcard. Further, they would have been ranked in the top 8, but not made the 8 team playoff.
You don't know that. In fact, it's very unlikely.
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