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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time

Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:47 pm to
Posted by Mr Perfect
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:47 pm to
Yup. But we'd still be in the playoffs this year under an 8 team

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:49 pm to
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Just go to 8 teams and make the Ohio State- Michigan game meaningless this year

Sure

And then make the big 10, acc, big 12, and pac 10 champ games 1000x more meaningful
You didn’t think that one through did you?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:49 pm to
Maybe. Or maybe you get bumped out for Washington.
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:51 pm to
Well...either scenario is mind numbingly dumb as Washington and Michigan do not deserve playoff opportunities.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:52 pm to
One of those is not like the other.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:52 pm to
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Well...either scenario is mind numbingly dumb as Washington and Michigan do not deserve playoff opportunities.

It is better to have some years where teams that possibly don’t deserve to get in do, than years where teams that possibly deserve to get in don’t
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:55 pm to
Well an ideal world you could adjust the playoffs each year depending on who is deserving. Some years only two. Some years a 6 team playoff. But that's impossible

It's a rare find to say at the end of year more than 5 teams deserve a chance though.

That's why these arguments are lost on me. Why should Michigan go? Washington? UCF? They all proved they didn't belong
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:56 pm to
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No, because the last team in has won 40% of the time, there is too much of a possibility we are leaving the best team out
The team that wins the playoff isn't necessarily clearly the best team in the nation from the start of the season to finish, so there's that.


Also, March Madness has 64 or however many teams, does the #1 overall team always win? If not, do they need to expand?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:56 pm to
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This is an overreaction
That's an understatement
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:56 pm to
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I think there is a damn good probability the two teams that made the playoff would have been the losers there......
How many teams are you advocating for?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110828 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:57 pm to
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It goes to show we dont know as much shite as we think about a regular season with over 100 teams where cross conference play is limited

Sounds like you're underestimating the variance of a 1 game sample size as well as overstating the difference between a #1 and a #4 team IMO.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:58 pm to
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Also, March Madness has 64 or however many teams, does the #1 overall team always win? If not, do they need to expand?

if the 16th seed won it 40% of the time, yes
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 3:03 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:00 pm to
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How many teams are you advocating for?

from earlier

My ultimate wish is you set a guaranteed way for a power 5 team to know what they need to do (sorry lower teams, you should form your own league or accept it. There just isnt equity at all in the differences)

8 teams, conference champs are guaranteed with 3 wild cards


Are there quirky years where someone like Northwester wins the big 10 this year? Of course. But every single p5 team had a clear cut way to play their way in on the field without the opinions of any human being or computer


Also, with the space for 3 wildcards, that almost entirely clears up the "quirk" from above anyway


I understand many will hate my opinion, but I can sleep well and I think players can too knowing they 100% have a chance to settle it on the field when the season starts
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:00 pm to
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I truly believe expanding to any more than 4 teams would bastardize college football to a point that would ruin the game.



I don't think so. I think auto qualifiers adds far more intrigue when 60 P5 teams have a clearly defined way to make the playoffs.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110828 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:03 pm to
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8 teams, conference champs are guaranteed with 3 wild cards

And if hte 3 wild cards win a couple of times, will you then push for 5 more wild cards to get to 16?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71599 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:04 pm to
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8 teams
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5 more
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16
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95130 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:05 pm to
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And if hte 3 wild cards win a couple of times, will you then push for 5 more wild cards to get to 16?

Nope

Because every team left complaining still 100% had the clear opportunity to make the playoffs
Posted by Ghazi
Dallas Mavs 2011 NBA Champions
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:06 pm to
Quit hatin on expansion bro.

6 is the perfect #

But I hate giving automatic berths to conference champs.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84871 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:07 pm to
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Because if 4 out of 120+ isn't enough, I don't see how 8 is the magic number then. And if #6 and #7 win a couple of times, then will you push for 16?



I want every P5 team to know what they need to go to guarantee a spot in the playoffs.

How anyone can advocate for a system that allows you to go undefeated and get left out is mind blowing to me, particularly in a P5 conference.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110828 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:10 pm to
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6 is the perfect #
Not based on OP's logic
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