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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time

Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

You criticize the rankings and then say "maybe we should expand a little" but I'm the lost one here?


I think his point is that 1-4 are pretty arbitrarily ordered (which seems pretty indisputable). Given that fact, who’s to say that they actually have the right teams in the top 4.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111307 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

Nope

Because every team left complaining still 100% had the clear opportunity to make the playoffs
So the reasoning in your OP have nothing to do with your ultimate wish playoff.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28699 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:11 pm to
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How anyone can advocate for a system that allows you to go undefeated and get left out is mind blowing to me, particularly in a P5 conference.


The chance of that happening is less than 1%. How many times in CFB history has there been at least 5 undefeated major teams at the end of the season? And the vast majority of CFB history was without conference championship games which further reduce the likelihood of several undefeateds.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111307 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:12 pm to
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I think his point is that 1-4 are pretty arbitrarily ordered (which seems pretty indisputable).
They're not arbitrarily ordered.

If you think the results show that, well not sure what to tell you, I guess.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:14 pm to


Sure. Let's wait until it happens to fix what's broken.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96817 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:15 pm to
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So the reasoning in your OP have nothing to do with your ultimate wish playoff
It does


I am fine with having teams left out that "potentially could be the best team" if those said teams had a clear undisputed way to make the playoffs based on football only


I am not fine with having teams left out that "potentially could be the best team" based on arbitrary knowledge and subjective analysis


You are too busy being a smartass to just read through what I am posting
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:34 pm to
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They're not arbitrarily ordered.

If you think the results show that, well not sure what to tell you, I guess.


Maybe “arbitrarily” isn’t the right word. Let’s go with “highly subjectively”.

If #4 wins the championship 40% of the time, it’s a little odd that people believe that #5 should have no shot.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111307 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:35 pm to
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You are too busy being a smartass
Taking my W and on my way.

See ya!
Posted by StupidBinder
Jawja
Member since Oct 2017
6392 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:46 pm to
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Taking my W and on my way. See ya!


Self-proclaimed titles based on nothing.

No wonder you like the current system.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5043 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Maybe we should expand it a little. Just a thought


But 100% of the time the champ was ranked 1-4, so why expand?
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13139 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time by lsupride87
Their 1st team has won 0%


Maybe we should expand it a little. Just a thought


Do you even sample size bro?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96817 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:05 pm to
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But 100% of the time the champ was ranked 1-4, so why expand?

Well, if there is a year one of the teams they pick doesnt win, that would be wild man
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96817 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:06 pm to
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Do you even sample size bro?

Im not techinally using a sample. I am using the entire population of the CFP history


Internal audit semantic burn for the W
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

shel311
quote:

8 + 5 = 16
quote:

Taking my W
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:12 pm to
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That is why I dont think picking 4 teams in a league full of 100 teams with what we call 5 power conferences is a large enough sample when cross conf games are limited



You don't know what sample size means.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:14 pm to
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I get the 4th being added just for fanfare purposes


It's added for symmetry.

Like the guy you were replying to said, 3 solves everything problem, but why have just one semifinal?

Going to 8 is a solution in search of a problem and would kill everything that is great about the sport.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:17 pm to
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No, because the last team in has won 40% of the time, there is too much of a possibility we are leaving the best team out


Name one year in the history of college football where 5 teams have had a legitimate argument as the best team during the season (i.e. a legit argument to be national champions).

Take as much time as you need.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76847 posts
Posted on 1/10/19 at 11:53 pm to
Just rank teams like the BCS did. Then take the top 6 or 8 and that’s your playoffs.
Posted by MidnightVibe
Member since Feb 2015
7896 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 12:03 am to
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I am using the entire population of the CFP history



Try using the entire set of college football as a sport. Ever.

And, again, let me know when 5 times had a legit claim to the natty.

And if you can't find such a scenario -- and you can't -- then what the hell are you arguing for?

The playoff is for nothing other than to deal with years like 2004. There's never EVER been a year that the CFP wouldn't solve, and in the vast majority of years it is wildly overinclusive. And yet you're advocating for expansion? Huh?

Solution in search of a problem. Most appropriate use of that phrase in my lifetime.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96817 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:40 am to
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And, again, let me know when 5 times had a legit claim to the natty.

2014 to start, where 6 teams had a “legit claim”

That was easy

Had to rack my brain for a whole entire 4 seasons
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