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re: The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:34 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:34 pm to lsupride87
This is good and all, but it's just not enough sample size to draw this kinds of conclusions.
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:34 pm to lsupride87
quote:Who would expect that?
So you are saying they are guessing and dont really know who the frick the best team is?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:34 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
if you were the best team, you would have been top 4 in December
So, if in December of 2014, the committee decided to rank TCU ahead of OSU, then OSU all of a sudden is not the best team? OSU was that close to not getting in. A decision of 13 people sitting around
And TCU still may have been the best team that year. They were absolutely legit
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:35 pm to castorinho
quote:I can agree to that. But how many years do we need to wait and see?
This is good and all, but it's just not enough sample size to draw this kinds of conclusions.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:35 pm to lsupride87
quote:The committee's job is to take the 4 best teams, that's it.
The committee's 4th team has won the playoffs 40% of the time
Their 1st team has won 0%
Maybe we should expand it a little. Just a thought
Not sure why the #1 team not winning would matter. How much of a difference do you really think there between a #1 and #2 team?
When games are played, it's not always as simple as Team A is better than Team B, so Team A will win every time.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:36 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:
if you were the best team, you would have been top 4 in December
Alabama backdoored their way in last season after we beat the committee's #4 team. Are you saying Alabama wasn't the best team in the country last year? I'd be easy to convince on that, but I'm curious where you stand on it.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:36 pm to shel311
quote:
The committee's job is to take the 4 best teams, that's it.
Wrong.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:36 pm to shel311
quote:I agree
When games are played, it's not always as simple as Team A is better than Team B, so Team A will win every time.
That is why I dont think picking 4 teams in a league full of 100 teams with what we call 5 power conferences is a large enough sample when cross conf games are limited
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:37 pm to lsupride87
quote:I don't know. But the computers, which you're a fan of, have had the same #1s as the committee going into the playoffs.
I can agree to that. But how many years do we need to wait and see?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:38 pm to lsupride87
Should have picked the three teams who didn't lose
Don't lose and then whine afterwards.
Don't lose and then whine afterwards.
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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or maybe the committee ranks teams in a way that doesn't lead to good outcomes
Nah, we’ve had 5 playoffs, so we really don’t have a good sample size to say 1 way or the other, but the 2 years the 4 seed won: 2017 all 4 teams had a loss, Alabama was the 1 all year but lost the last week and the first year when it was new, I also think conference stereotypes played a big role, in 2014, the SEC was overrated and B1G was considered bad after like week, but in retrospect Ohio State was a better team they were also young, what was it 10 of the first 80 picks in the draft a full year later
The other 3 years were all Bama-Clemson as the 1-2, with the 2 winning all 3, that’s an odd coincidence but 2s winning 1-2 games is not unusual especially a bunch in a short time the 2002, 03, 05, 06, 07, 08 BCS the 2 seed won
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:38 pm to lsupride87
quote:To be comparable with other leagues, they'd likely need 32, is that what you're asking for?
I agree
That is why I dont think picking 4 teams in a league full of 100 teams with what we call 5 power conferences is a large enough sample when cross conf games are limited
Because if 4 out of 120+ isn't enough, I don't see how 8 is the magic number then. And if #6 and #7 win a couple of times, then will you push for 16?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:39 pm to lsupride87
70 - 7 playoff games incoming.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:40 pm to castorinho
Is that the computer rankings, or the simulated BcS rankings?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:40 pm to 21JumpStreet
That's what these people want
Pedestrian schools competing for titles
Delaying the inevitable.
Expansion to 100 still gives us Clemson Vs Bama at the end of the day
Pedestrian schools competing for titles
Delaying the inevitable.
Expansion to 100 still gives us Clemson Vs Bama at the end of the day
This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:40 pm to shel311
quote:it's really 4 out of about 70
Because if 4 out of 120+ isn't enough, I don't see how 8 is the magic number then. And if #6 and #7 win a couple of times, then will you push for 16?
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:41 pm to castorinho
quote:I know
But the computers, which you're a fan of, have had the same #1s as the committee going into the playoffs.
My ultimate wish is you set a guaranteed way for a power 5 team to know what they need to do (sorry lower teams, you should form your own league or accept it. There just isnt equity at all in the differences)
8 teams, conference champs are guaranteed with 3 wild cards
Are there quirky years where someone like Northwester wins the big 10 this year? Of course. But every single p5 team had a clear cut way to play their way in on the field without the opinions of any human being or computer
Also, with the space for 3 wildcards, that almost entirely clears up the "quirk" from above anyway
I understand many will hate my opinion, but I can sleep well and I think players can too knowing they 100% have a chance to settle it on the field when the season starts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:43 pm to shel311
quote:
Because if 4 out of 120+ isn't enough, I don't see how 8 is the magic number then. And if #6 and #7 win a couple of times, then will you push for 16?
Exactly. Also, how do you decide between #6-10? Maybe #9 was the best team that year but they weren’t given the chance. That’s the logic Pride is using here with TCU above.
I also find it funny that the two most controversial #4 seeds (2014 OSU and 2017 Bama) are the only #4 seed to win. Meanwhile the “deserving” 4 seeds have been massively outmatched by their opponents.
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:44 pm to lsupride87
Just go to 8 teams and make the Ohio State- Michigan game meaningless this year
Give this man a prize folks
Give this man a prize folks
Posted on 1/8/19 at 2:47 pm to Mr Perfect
quote:
Ohio State- Michigan game meaningless
This is why y'all continue to lose.
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