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Democrats, what's your argument against the wall?

Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:05 pm
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9334 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:05 pm
Help me to understand. I mean, essentially you're saying you don't want anything making it more difficult to illegally enter the United States. Would that be fair to say?

And before you say you don't want it because it wont work, let me assure you it will. I was a Border Patrol agent for over 10 years and I've seen what infrastructure can do in thwarting illegal entries. I worked before the fencing went up in 2006-09 and worked after.

Any liberals care to chime in on why you/your party is so vehemently opposed to blocking this wall?

Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37371 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:07 pm to
There are only two reasons here why they are against it.

1) Keep democratic votes coming by way of new voters.

2) It is Trump’s idea. If HRC came up with it, they would be all-in.
Posted by Clutch Cargo
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Member since Dec 2011
1388 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:08 pm to
I’m not a liberal. I’m solidly Republican. I think it’s a huge waste of money. And I’m passed that Trump gets to say a million times that Mexico will pay for it and then threaten to shut down the government if the US taxpayers don’t pay for it.
If you’re a conservative who believes in small government why would you want us to pay for a wall?
Posted by TomTheGhost
Member since Dec 2018
852 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:08 pm to
They are doing this so the President cant fulfill his promises. I know someone will say that he said Mexico will pay for it, but that is because our elected officials (left) know how to play the game.

This is Schumers shut down!
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:10 pm to
It's simple, Democrats can't get real Americans to vote for them because they've gone so far off the leftist the deep end. They need the illegal votes to keep their power.
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13611 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:10 pm to
Israel built a wall. They are 99.9% effective.... why do you think the Dems are fighting it tooth and nail?
Posted by Statsattack
Il
Member since Feb 2013
3897 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:11 pm to
Liberal arguments

No knowledge that illegal immigrants have raised health care costs

No knowledge that immigrants can come into the country legally

They are selfish and desperate for people to care about them and have no empathy or common sense and way too self absorbed

No knowledge of ms 13

They think it's ok for ms 13 to beat and rape women but not ok for president to have locker room talk
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
68570 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:11 pm to
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If you’re a conservative who believes in small government why would you want us to pay for a wall?




you wouldn't need a wall if there were no benefits to be had from the host nation

remove the honey pot and immigration will slow to a trickle
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22842 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:11 pm to
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If you’re a conservative who believes in small government why would you want us to pay for a wall?


If we are going to debate wasteful spending, border security (including border barriers) are at the bottom of the list. Probably doesn’t even deserve to be on it.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15519 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:13 pm to
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Congratulations to House Republicans for increasing wall funding - very much needed. Do Democrats hate President Trump so much they can’t see the need for more funding for border security? Do they hate President Trump so much they’re unwilling to compromise? Time will tell.


Based Lindsey via Twitter
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7974 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:13 pm to
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If you’re a conservative who believes in small government why would you want us to pay for a wall?


A report out today says 50k illegals came into our country last month alone.

Drugs pouring into the country.

Human trafficking including children.

Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22400 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:15 pm to
Votes
Posted by KingOrange
Mayfair
Member since Aug 2018
8686 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

Clutch


If you do not have a BOARDER you do not have a Country. PERIOD! 26 Billion for a wall is Pennies. The illegal aliens entering our country cost us Billions per year. The Democrats want illegals for votes only. We can afford not to build a Wall.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41282 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:18 pm to
Let’s agree that a wall will be effective at preventing people crossing the border. If it is effective at keeping people out, wouldn’t you assume that it’d be equally effective at keeping people in? Why would any American want to empower their gov’t with the ability to prevent them from leaving the country?

And, before you say “that could never happen here”, let me direct you to the IRS website: IRS Can Revoke Passport on Tax Reasons

I’m always amazed at the small gov’t, budget minded “conservatives”.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20552 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:19 pm to
Judging by the comments on the Go Fund Me threads, I’m more interested in why Republicans are against it.
Posted by umop_apisdn
Member since Sep 2017
3673 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

I’m not a liberal. I’m solidly Republican. I think it’s a huge waste of money. And I’m passed that Trump gets to say a million times that Mexico will pay for it and then threaten to shut down the government if the US taxpayers don’t pay for it. 
If you’re a conservative who believes in small government why would you want us to pay for a wall?


Another fake conservative or you fail at the absolute simplest if math.

This is first grade math.

You struggling with it?
Posted by Clutch Cargo
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Member since Dec 2011
1388 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

you wouldn't need a wall if there were no benefits to be had from the host nation remove the honey pot and immigration will slow to a trickle


Spot on
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15085 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:23 pm to
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If you’re a conservative who believes in small government why would you want us to pay for a wall?



Have you not seen the illegals all over America? I have seen them in Missouri! They are everywhere in the USA because they get through mostly from Mexico!
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20552 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

I’m not a liberal. I’m solidly Republican. I think it’s a huge waste of money. And I’m passed that Trump gets to say a million times that Mexico will pay for it and then threaten to shut down the government if the US taxpayers don’t pay for it. If you’re a conservative who believes in small government why would you want us to pay for a wall?


So when you ay you’re a Republican, are you like a “Bill Kristol, John McCain, Weekly Standard” Republican?
Posted by zunic
Dallas
Member since Nov 2014
921 posts
Posted on 12/20/18 at 9:29 pm to
To own the cucks
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