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re: Average man vs. Ronda Rousey

Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:49 am to
Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:49 am to
Well I’m 5’8” and 165, but it’s allocated differently than someone in shape.

Fight me.
Posted by onelochevy
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:50 am to
She can sit on my face until I tap out
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:50 am to
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Joe Rogan has a podcast where he talks about men and women fighting. Apparently he's seen plenty sparring and grappling sessions between men and women in his experience. He says a guy with a minimum amount of training will beat most professional female fighters simply based on strength and athleticism especially because of striking. He did say there were exceptions though


I think Joe is right...
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:50 am to
Just for discussion, Rousey is 5’7’, 135 lbs.

Except that I’d get tired too quickly, I could take her.

I’ve trained with police women in defensive tactics. Women just cannot generate the same amount of power as men.
Posted by tide06
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:52 am to
Average American male is fat, out of shape and has never been in a fight, much less possesses any fight training.

Avg male would get their arse beat.
Trained fat man wins.
Untrained in-shape man has a chance.
Trained in shape man crushes.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Joe Rogan has a podcast where he talks about men and women fighting. Apparently he's seen plenty sparring and grappling sessions between men and women in his experience. He says a guy with a minimum amount of training will beat most professional female fighters simply based on strength and athleticism especially because of striking. He did say there were exceptions though



To me it depends what we mean by average man.

Pulling an average (not obese, not trained fighter) off the street on the way to work and asking him to beat a woman who fights for a living seems like a tall task.

It changes for me if we're talking about some amateur MMA fighter who could never compete on any serious level on the men's side, just as is the case when you're talking about a half-decent HS boys team smashing a top women's CBB team. I have no doubt that a reasonably fit guy who brawls a little or has some training could hang in there, but I have no confidence a guy who got into a school yard fight once and is now an accountant could do so, if that makes sense.

Posted by rowbear1922
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:58 am to
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Just for discussion, Rousey is 5’7’, 135 lbs.

Except that I’d get tired too quickly, I could take her.

I’ve trained with police women in defensive tactics. Women just cannot generate the same amount of power as men.


I'm 5'8'' and 175 lbs. My experience of a few years of karate before I was 10 and about a year of taekwondo, so I would say little to no fighting experience, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt she would beat the shite out of me unless I somehow got lucky with 1 punch and knocked her out.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:59 am to
Doubt it. She could beat them easily with a wristlock or something similar that they weren't prepared for.
Posted by Packer
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Member since May 2017
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:59 am to
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Average American male is fat, out of shape and has never been in a fight, much less possesses any fight training.



This. I know the OT is full of badasses, but think about the average male you deal with on a day to day basis. They aren't in shape, don't have the cardiovascular endurance to fight, and probably haven't thrown a punch since they were a teenager.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

Pulling an average (not obese, not trained fighter) off the street on the way to work and asking him to beat a woman who fights for a living seems like a tall task.

someone posted a video on here a few years back of Dak Prescott getting his arse beat at some black spring break thing, she could probably beat his arse, he wasn't even trying to fight back, dude was smaller than him too
Posted by windshieldman
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:02 pm to
I’d pull out a gun and shoot her........: I win!!
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:06 pm to
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don't have the cardiovascular endurance to fight, and probably haven't thrown a punch since they were a teenager.

if we're talking a "fight," not a match, I'll take the average size, somewhat in shape dude, real "fights" don't last that long.
Posted by smoked hog
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:07 pm to
1. She is 5'7" 135#s

2. The average male is roughly 5'10" and 195#s.

3. The average male has 20-30 percent more muscle pound for pound.

An average male with just a little bit of training would beat her arse.


Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:09 pm to
They would beat her arse
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:11 pm to
The question is can a 135 lb woman generate enough power to knock a guy out? Not talking a kick in the nuts, but landing one on the jaw. If she can do that, she has an excellent chance because an untrained guy won't be able to block it. If a guy shrugs off her best punch, she's in trouble.

a 135lb male fighter can easily knock out a bigger guy. I just don't know whether a female can. That leaves her trying to execute a chock or lock, which is also problematic against a stronger opponent, even one who's less skilled.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:16 pm to
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Your friends are wrong.




The guys would probably win. Apparently Ronda Rousey has a lot of trouble with 115 lb woman.



Posted by jcole4lsu
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:20 pm to
Rhonda can't take a punch. So the question is: How good are your friends a punching people in the nose?
Also of question: Can your friends punch Rhonda in the nose before she grabs a hold of them - because average guy is not going to escape a trained Judo artist
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10476 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

The question is can a 135 lb woman generate enough power to knock a guy out? Not talking a kick in the nuts, but landing one on the jaw. If she can do that, she has an excellent chance because an untrained guy won't be able to block it. If a guy shrugs off her best punch, she's in trouble.


I doubt she'd stand with a guy. She struggled standing.

I do think an average sized guy with no idea how to defend submissions would get tapped. If you get someone in a submission, they can be way stronger and not be able to power out.

The average, untrained guy is a way worse fighter than he thinks he is, IMO. I did a little BJJ training and was shocked at how easily much smaller people would submit me. I had 50 lb and was in decent shape and it made zero difference.
Posted by IceTiger
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:22 pm to
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without a shadow of a doubt she would beat the shite out of me

I agree, but she'd get you with locks
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68513 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 12:23 pm to
Your friend is a moron
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