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I think O wants a modern offense.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:53 pm
We saw some hurry up last night. And it was very effective. We were playing against the worst team in the country, though. We tried hurry up early in the Arkansas game and it didn't work so we switched to a power run.
Why didn't it work? There are many reasons probably. Our oline is not good. Arkansas was able to get to Burrow pretty easy. But what are we doing to try and counter that?
Well we tried some screens, and they failed miserably. So we abandoned all of it and just ran the ball. It worked for the most part against them. We won and got out of the game.
But that's not going to work against the better teams. We need help in our scheme for when it doesn't. O said in the Florida game that they tried every protection they knew and it didn't work. It still doesn't work (as you can see from the Arkansas game).
So, a couple of things I've gathered from the last two weeks that I'm happy about? I think I've realised that O does in fact want a modern offense. He just needs the right person to implement it. I hope we get that person this offseason. And I think we need someone that is able to run, teach, and implement multiple schemes.
Why didn't it work? There are many reasons probably. Our oline is not good. Arkansas was able to get to Burrow pretty easy. But what are we doing to try and counter that?
Well we tried some screens, and they failed miserably. So we abandoned all of it and just ran the ball. It worked for the most part against them. We won and got out of the game.
But that's not going to work against the better teams. We need help in our scheme for when it doesn't. O said in the Florida game that they tried every protection they knew and it didn't work. It still doesn't work (as you can see from the Arkansas game).
So, a couple of things I've gathered from the last two weeks that I'm happy about? I think I've realised that O does in fact want a modern offense. He just needs the right person to implement it. I hope we get that person this offseason. And I think we need someone that is able to run, teach, and implement multiple schemes.
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Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:54 pm to abellsujr
We are getting Sean Salisbury as either a coach or analyst
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:58 pm to abellsujr
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Well we tried some screens, and they failed miserably.
When you can't run screens successfully against Arkansas and Rice, you have major issues.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 12:59 pm to abellsujr
Many teams use the hurry up and a spread out, dependent on timing passing game to cover up ineffective and undersized offensive lines.
The oline issues can be schemed around.
The oline issues can be schemed around.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:00 pm to abellsujr
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I think O wants a modern offense
Then why hire Ensminger? To save money? Because saving money and winning doesn't go together.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:00 pm to abellsujr
Quit making excuses for Orgeron. He’s had two tries to hire an offensive coordinator. He’s had unlimited money to make it happen. Ensminger is the guy he wanted. End of story. This is the offense O wants.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:03 pm to abellsujr
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I think O wants a modern offense
No he doesn't. If he did, he wouldn't have hired Ensminger.
Him not having the right person the job is 10000000% his own fault.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:05 pm to abellsujr
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We saw some hurry up last night. And it was very effective. We were playing against the worst team in the country, though. We tried hurry up early in the Arkansas game and it didn't work so we switched to a power run.
LSU wants to run the spread but does not want to commit to it. They just want to put their toe in the water so to speak. If you are going to put your QB back behind the line with no backs for pass protection you have to be ready to let it fly quick. You dont have 5 sec to wait for receivers to make a triple move and get 20 yds down field before you throw it. First time we get a sack we go back in the turtle shell.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:05 pm to abellsujr
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I think I've realised that O does in fact want a modern offense. He just needs the right person to implement it. I hope we get that person this offseason.
You mean the guy that Orgeron isnt afraid that will take his job?
We already have that guy, his name is Ensminger.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:15 pm to abellsujr
I think he wants to keep the job longterm. And you won't beat Saban with a traditional pro-style unless you have an OL 2-deep made up entirely of high draft choices.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:17 pm to abellsujr
up tempo does not equal modern offence. Now, I really liked what we were doing last night when Burrow was in, but I'll hold off on praising the offensive progression until we show that we want to try to do those things in a real game. I do believe there's a good chance we see Burrow throw much more than we're accustom to in big SEC games because A&M's secondary is subpar at best and their run defense is STINGY. BUT, I don't believe that's a reflection of where this offense is heading. We'll pass when we absolutely need to, but don't expect us to be getting too modern outside of that.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:20 pm to abellsujr
The truth is O doesn’t know what the frick he wants to do on offense. He’s said like 5-6 different offenses he wants to emulate and then both of his hires contradict what he says he wants to do.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:23 pm to abellsujr
Bubble screens and regular screens. The olinemen can't move and block downfield and the receivers don't or can't block well enough for this to be effective. Otherwise it's great.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:54 pm to abellsujr
It’s garbage. They run a hurry up spread then once they go up by 14 points they go back to that bullshite pro style offense.
They put Brennan (a spread QB) in and had him under center running PA roll outs. Clearly that’s not what he’s good at. You play to your QB’s strengths. Something LSU never has done.
They put Brennan (a spread QB) in and had him under center running PA roll outs. Clearly that’s not what he’s good at. You play to your QB’s strengths. Something LSU never has done.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 1:56 pm to abellsujr
O wants a modern offense so he hires an old school OC and a 70 year old WR coach?
I think O wants the pro style offense USC used to run but that’s not much different than we have. They just had a talent mismatch in a poor defensive conference during the Carrol years.
I think O wants the pro style offense USC used to run but that’s not much different than we have. They just had a talent mismatch in a poor defensive conference during the Carrol years.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:01 pm to abellsujr
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I think O wants a modern offense
I think he just wanted to throw the fans a bone in a game that was decided before it started. LSU could have ran the triple option and the result would have been the same.
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:11 pm to abellsujr
If he wanted a “modern” offense why hire an OC who hasn’t been an OC this century?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:21 pm to abellsujr
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I think O wants a modern offense
So why did he fire Canada and hire a guy who was last an OC before anyone on the team was even born?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:34 pm to abellsujr
So be hired an OC that hasn’t called plays in 20 yrs?
Posted on 11/18/18 at 2:39 pm to abellsujr
One thing O has to learn is just because something doesn't work 1 or 2 series doesn't mean it won't work at all. You can't just abandon something based off a small sample size. Change it up a little and go back to what you wanted. Now after it doesn't work several times then you rethink. He's too easy to just dump the whole game plan.
This post was edited on 11/18/18 at 2:41 pm
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