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re: Barge Operator might have some questions to answer

Posted on 10/14/18 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 4:23 pm to
Yea I will be happy to be wrong too. I don't see any way it's repaired and certified in two weeks
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 4:34 pm to
Care to explain?

Because I know what I'm talking about. Obviously you do not.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

quote:
tugboat named Kristine Alexis


Not to stereotype but that tugboat sounds like a porn actress.


Fixed.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
78078 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

Perfect time to

1: declare the bridge a total loss,
2: replace with a future-proof 10-lane bridge (Houston's Sidney Sherman Bridge over the Ship Channel, I'm looking at you)
3: run the approach-roads over to I-10 on both sides.

Voila, loop-problem solved.


This is a pretty damn good idea actually.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 6:50 pm to
Except...uh....funding
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 6:51 pm to


With what money
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48861 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:02 pm to
quote:


Because I know what I'm talking about. Obviously you do not.



You know what? You’re fricking speculating.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58277 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:25 pm to
They do have emergency contracts for situations like this. As soon as they get the engineering and have the material delivered, it will be work for 24/7. I’m betting a month or two.

Pretty sure there is a massive construction project that’s supposed to start on the west side early next year. Need that bridge open
This post was edited on 10/15/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17438 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 7:49 pm to
It's part of maritime law Dick licker Now GTFO telling me I'm speculating
Posted by Athanatos
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
8141 posts
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:33 pm to
You’re just wrong. While limitation of liability is a legal possibility, the probability is slim. Insurance will pay above and beyond the value of the vessel and its pending freight with absolute certainty.
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:23 am to
quote:

plus it will be a state project to let out the repairs.



No, since it's an emergency project they can just award the project to a contractor without public bidding.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57473 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:30 am to
quote:

it will be a state project to let out the repairs.

you do know they have people on contract already just for instances like this.

Ohh i bet you dont hence your comment.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20457 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:33 am to
quote:

I don't see any way it's repaired and certified in two weeks
It's just one small little section. Good lord, you're making it out to be as though the whole bridge was warped and bent upward.

Those iron workers have it down to a science and could finish the job in a week. Really, on land they could have it done in a day.
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9461 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:36 am to
Athanatos:

Can you expand on your comment a bit? If the maritime operator's liability is legally limited by the Jones Act, why would their insurance carriers pay more than required? It certainly wouldn't be out of the goodness of their black hearts.

I know jackshit about maritime law or how these cases are typically settled. Just curious what tbe norm is and why.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34408 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:44 am to
quote:

It's just one small little section. Good lord, you're making it out to be as though the whole bridge was warped and bent upward.

Those iron workers have it down to a science and could finish the job in a week. Really, on land they could have it done in a day.


That's all contingent on the needed steel members being available the same day. There will be a lead time on the materials.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45823 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:48 am to
Is that material easily available or custom stuff?
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20457 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 8:49 am to
I'm pretty sure that DOTD will get the iron workers here even if they have to pull them off another job. This is an emergency situation.

Isn't this basically what CB&I's specialty is?
Posted by dfintlyHmmrd
Jigga City
Member since Dec 2016
1408 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Is that material easily available or custom stuff?


It's custom stuff
Posted by White Roach
Member since Apr 2009
9461 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 10:39 am to
The piece of steel hanging from the bottom of that chord/box beam is probably at least 24" wide and maybe as much as 30". The sides of that thing are probably 36" to 42" high, maybe more. I'd guess the whole assembly would need to be replaced.

Can that happen w/o some type of temporary cribbing/support being put in place? I don't know. That material isn't sitting on a shelf somewhere. What tbe lead time is to have it fabricated will factor into the repair time.
Posted by SeabrookTiger
Seabrook, TX
Member since Dec 2007
1001 posts
Posted on 10/15/18 at 10:46 am to
quote:

I'm pretty sure that DOTD will get the iron workers here even if they have to pull them off another job. This is an emergency situation. 

Isn't this basically what CB&I's specialty is?


If they went with CB&I that bridge will be fixed by 2020
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