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The Civil War on the Left may turn into a Balkanization
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:25 am
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:25 am
so there is a legitimate, established, and admitted civil war on the left with extremists trying to ride the Bernie wave into powers of position. of course the new icon is the wise latina socialist from NY. they're branding their movement along the old Democrat Socialists of America (DSA), but riding the establishment/status of the Democratic Party (with whom they strongly disagree about almost everything)
however, an older, established progressive party (that is much more popular than the actual DSA) already has a home for the far left. the Green Party has been the extreme-Left fringe party for at least 20 years. Ralph Nader ran under the Green Party in the infamous Gore/Bush race of 2000.
after last night, the Green Party is now in the spotlight and being blamed for the biggest loss. however, the DEM to my knowledge wasn't even presented as a far-Left candidate, so the only option for the far-Left was the Green candidate. however, those on the far-Left who support the DSA are calling the true believers in far Left ideology Russians or secret Republicans today
this is hilarious shite
this is just like the DEMs criticizing Russian agents for using Facebook to interfere with the 2016 election, while ignoring the majority of activity that those agents were engaging in was pro-DEM (extreme-Left issues, primarily) advertising. so they're mad at a foreign government for promoting their ideas and turning off voters when exposed with those ideas
however, an older, established progressive party (that is much more popular than the actual DSA) already has a home for the far left. the Green Party has been the extreme-Left fringe party for at least 20 years. Ralph Nader ran under the Green Party in the infamous Gore/Bush race of 2000.
after last night, the Green Party is now in the spotlight and being blamed for the biggest loss. however, the DEM to my knowledge wasn't even presented as a far-Left candidate, so the only option for the far-Left was the Green candidate. however, those on the far-Left who support the DSA are calling the true believers in far Left ideology Russians or secret Republicans today
this is hilarious shite
this is just like the DEMs criticizing Russian agents for using Facebook to interfere with the 2016 election, while ignoring the majority of activity that those agents were engaging in was pro-DEM (extreme-Left issues, primarily) advertising. so they're mad at a foreign government for promoting their ideas and turning off voters when exposed with those ideas
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Everything you posted above is wrong.
It's hard to be that wrong on purpose, and you did it on accident. Congratulations!!
It's hard to be that wrong on purpose, and you did it on accident. Congratulations!!
Posted on 8/8/18 at 7:43 am to SlowFlowPro
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the new icon is the wise latina socialist from NY
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latina socialist from NY
Yes
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wise
Not so much
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:07 am to SlowFlowPro
Bold strategy Dems. Start at the lowest point since the 1920s. Working class whites have been shamed and repudiated. Everybody between the Coasts has been denigrated and ridiculed. Free Speech and economic moderate Liberals have been marginalized. Progressivism has become the standard- bearer. Twitter is being used as an enforcement mechanism and there are angry mobs in streets and restaurants and washed out Leftists with guns at softball games. Two television networks and the American paper of record have committed suicide on behalf of Progressivism , not to mention hundreds of celebrities and Chattering Class nattering nabobs Of negativity imploding before our very eyes.
The Democrats have IMPLODED and now they will devolve into internecine warfare. They have no leadership and no message other than hate ( Trump is Hitler ) and batshit crazy ( Muh Russians). So Into their camps they will go to war against each other .
Where the frick is your Obama now , bitches?
The Democrats have IMPLODED and now they will devolve into internecine warfare. They have no leadership and no message other than hate ( Trump is Hitler ) and batshit crazy ( Muh Russians). So Into their camps they will go to war against each other .
Where the frick is your Obama now , bitches?
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
The democrat party has been balkanized for a long time. The only thing that units them is wanting to defeat us so that they can get at our money.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:18 am to SlowFlowPro
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of course the new icon is the wise latina socialist from NY
I don’t believe they think they can win a general election with an avowed socialist.
I think they are using that woman to convince the fringe left that the Democrat Party is still their home after what happened to Bernie.
If there is a socialist contender for the Dem nomination, he or she will be bought off before the primaries and will endorse whichever “centrist” minority they run in an appeal to the moderate Dems throughout the rust belt.
They can only win by running a centrist while convincing the fringe left not to go 3rd party. That’s what all the pearl clutching was about last night.
Of course, I assume at this point that Trumps strategy includes getting a chunk of the black vote, and if he does that, nothing else matters.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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so there is a legitimate, established, and admitted civil war on the left
Nah.
You see more cohesiveness on the left than you do the right imo.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:22 am to SlowFlowPro
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Civil War on the Left
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
Ralph Nader and the Green Party cost Al Gore the White House.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
This is one reason why a parliamentary system would benefit people at large. The Democrats have been a collection of sometimes competing interests since the New Deal coalition. It would be more beneficial to everyone, in my view, in a country as diverse and dispersed as America, to move to a parliamentary system. That way coalitions can be up for grabs, and not historically determined, as has been the case for large blocks of Dem voters.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 11:26 am to SlowFlowPro
Someone may have already said this but you could probably say the same thing about GOP in 2015-2016.
Posted on 8/8/18 at 12:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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however, the DEM to my knowledge wasn't even presented as a far-Left candidate, so the only option for the far-Left was the Green candidate.
The dirty little secret in all of these close special elections is the Dem candidate ran as a very centrist, even somewhat conservative, candidate. The media definitely won't tell you that, though. These elections are close because the Dem is lying to the voters about who they are to steal independents and disgruntled conservatives.
Dems can't run as who they actually are and win and they know it.
Posted on 8/9/18 at 5:42 am to SlowFlowPro
All the socialists across the nation need to come together and form their own party. They'll need a catchy name. *National Socialists* seems to describe them pretty well.
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