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Watched the replay of Troy game without bias
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:27 am
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:27 am
You can assign blame to O, or Canada, or even Aranda if you want. But that is not what lost the game.
A shortage of defensive linemen allowed Troy to knock us off the ball and dominate the LOS.
But many tackles were missed and some LBs and DBs were out of position to make plays too often.
Downvote away but O didn't lose that game. The players did by not making the simple plays & by making stupid mistakes.
Don't care if you are the 4th team RB, Brossette should have never fumbled that ball on the opening play. He knows about ball security. They practice it every day.
We missed tackles on Chunn all night.
Missed 35 yd field goal after driving from our 20. Two fumbles lost and two interceptions. Four turnovers won't win many games. Third down efficiency was horrible at 0 for 9. QB's missed several open receivers. Yet we still outgained Troy and had the last possession with a chance to win.
Players are responsible for this one.
A shortage of defensive linemen allowed Troy to knock us off the ball and dominate the LOS.
But many tackles were missed and some LBs and DBs were out of position to make plays too often.
Downvote away but O didn't lose that game. The players did by not making the simple plays & by making stupid mistakes.
Don't care if you are the 4th team RB, Brossette should have never fumbled that ball on the opening play. He knows about ball security. They practice it every day.
We missed tackles on Chunn all night.
Missed 35 yd field goal after driving from our 20. Two fumbles lost and two interceptions. Four turnovers won't win many games. Third down efficiency was horrible at 0 for 9. QB's missed several open receivers. Yet we still outgained Troy and had the last possession with a chance to win.
Players are responsible for this one.
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Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:30 am to LongTime Tiger
Great analogy. Players were not ready and the lack of DL personnel was the most contributing factor to lose that game and to MSU
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:30 am to LongTime Tiger
Bet BROSSETE DIDN'T WATCH IT
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:32 am to tigers1956
Say "good night Troy" sleep well for eternity!
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:33 am to LongTime Tiger
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A shortage of defensive linemen allowed Troy to knock us off the ball and dominate the LOS.
We scored 0 points in the entire first half at home though..
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:38 am to LongTime Tiger
On any given day, don’t you think all 2nd/3rd team backups at LSU should beat any team at Troy. Just saying, I know how the mentality is against weaker opponents, players care less but still falls on coaching, no excuses
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:39 am to LongTime Tiger
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Players are responsible for this one.
Geez.
Yeah, they just went out there and made dumb mistakes. Almost like they had no head coach to guide them.
What about the prior week when we were lucky enough to fart out a win with Syracuse? Syracuse! In Baton Rouge, at night. The players fault again?
I don't understand what it is with you O fans. If you like the guy, that's your right but you're not being realistic. It's always someone else's fault. It's completely illogical. "It's Aranda's fault, it's Canada's fault, it's the fans fault," now it's the players fault.
It's never the fault of the man that's actually driving the bus. It's truly mind boggling.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:40 am to LongTime Tiger
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Downvote away but O didn't lose that game. The players did by not making the simple plays & by making stupid mistakes.
Jesus.. are you Paul Mainieri? Throw the players under the bus and back over them. When a team like LSU loses to a Sun Belt team it’s the coach’s fault for not having the team prepared.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:44 am to LongTime Tiger
It was unacceptable, and it better not happen again.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 1:51 am to beauchristopher
Yep, good point, we were unable to score the entire 1st half, and I allot 100% of the blame to O. That bastard remains on thin ice because of the Troy debacle, and nothing will change that, EXCEPT maybe winning the west this season. Fans need to see something pretty big.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:00 am to LongTime Tiger
quote:I heard they played every snap and all, but didn't know on offense also.
A shortage of defensive linemen allowed Troy to knock us off the ball and dominate the LOS
Looking at the score by quarters, it seems Troy was the team that tired, or LSU offense woke up and played closer to potential.
Just think if they'd have done that from the start and took Troy out of their gameplan.
quote:Yep, players fault not coach, just like 1-9-12 right?
Players are responsible for this one.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:01 am to LongTime Tiger
As it turns out I don't think O has ever been at fault for anything ever.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:04 am to Goldrush25
quote:Where ignorance is bliss.....
As it turns out I don't think O has ever been at fault for anything ever.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:21 am to la_birdman
Yeah, that's the game people sort of just forget.. That Syracuse game was ugly in its own right, but we eventually won on more talent.
I kept thinking during the Troy game.. okay we will just just come back and take this one as well.. surely we won't lose this one.
I kept thinking during the Troy game.. okay we will just just come back and take this one as well.. surely we won't lose this one.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:28 am to beauchristopher
Troy was not some flukey type win like Boise over Oklahoma.
LSU got pushed around and beaten.
In Tiger Stadium.
For Homecoming.
AD and O should have been fired immediately after that abortion.
Instead, the nightmare continues.
LSU got pushed around and beaten.
In Tiger Stadium.
For Homecoming.
AD and O should have been fired immediately after that abortion.
Instead, the nightmare continues.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:28 am to la_birdman
Never played the game did you? Otherwise you might have played a game in which the staff prepared you well but key players didn't perform for whatever reason. That is what I am saying might have happened. Understand O meddling in Canada's offense but I don't believe that kept the offense from producing. Lack of blocking, throwing and catching was the problem as well as 4 turnovers.
Don't care how well you are coached, players have to execute. Otherwise you might not win.
Not an O fan, but geez, he has the job even though I was vehemently against him getting it. But give him a freaking chance! If he shites the bed I will lead the parade to fire him.
BTW, Syracuse barely lost to #8 Miami while they were playing well and then, remember this: they beat #2 Clemson. So the Syracuse win is a little better than you might think.
Don't care how well you are coached, players have to execute. Otherwise you might not win.
Not an O fan, but geez, he has the job even though I was vehemently against him getting it. But give him a freaking chance! If he shites the bed I will lead the parade to fire him.
BTW, Syracuse barely lost to #8 Miami while they were playing well and then, remember this: they beat #2 Clemson. So the Syracuse win is a little better than you might think.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:37 am to LongTime Tiger
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players have to execute
No question. That's why they have a head coach.
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Don't care how well you are coached
There lies the problem. Maybe the head coach isn't the best at being a head coach. He can recruit and be a good DL coach but he seems to be in over his head as a head coach IMO
quote:
But give him a freaking chance!
I did. More than a few to be honest. I didn't just say, "you know, I don't like him so I'm rooting against him."
That is not how I am. From what I saw last season, it has shaken my confidence. He's a liar and to me, he seems to be in over his head. This is just me. If you feel like he's going to blow the doors off teams, so be it. He has a ton of weapons at his disposal so there are no excuses for poor performance this year.
Your opinion is no more right than mine. I do have to consider his track record as a whole though.
If I'm wrong, I'll be first in line to eat crow and I will happily have seconds.
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So the Syracuse win is a little better than you might think.
Perhaps. But how about that bowl game? We're on the one foot, not yard, foot line, and he chooses to kick a FG when the kickers had been struggling all game. And GASP, we miss another. "We coming"
This post was edited on 7/21/18 at 2:40 am
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:43 am to LongTime Tiger
quote:Meaning any reason but Orgeron.
Otherwise you might have played a game in which the staff prepared you well but key players didn't perform for whatever reason. .......
quote:Both teams had 14pts off turnovers, and in quote above you just said they were prepared well.
Lack of blocking, throwing and catching was the problem as well as 4 turnovers.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:46 am to Mayhawman
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Meaning any reason but Orgeron.
Exactly. It's crazy. "Anyone the than the head coach."
But they were prepared well. Well who prepares the players for a game?
At least be realistic.
Posted on 7/21/18 at 2:48 am to The Boat
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Jesus.. are you Paul Mainieri? Throw the players under the bus and back over them. When a team like LSU loses to a Sun Belt team it’s the coach’s fault for not having the team prepared.
Major difference when a D-1 baseball coach throws a player under the bus and when a fan calls it like he sees it.
I played and my son finished playing college baseball a few years ago. If he would have played for Manieri and PM would have called him out the way he has done numerous kids we would have had words.
But knowledgeable fans and sports writers can see when players don't perform their assignments, including turnovers, missed reads, and failing to get the ball to the open receivers. That has nothing to do with "throwing . . . bus".
Maybe O didn't have them prepared, but I doubt it from an x & O standpoint. They beat us man on man. And again, I didn't see throw either of those interceptions, fumble the ball, or miss the field goal. Not his fault.
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