re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread

40 miles a week for the next two months. Do you trust it? Asked him about peak miles "I dunno, we've never worked together before"

I feel like the dude lied to me on the phone screening. Thank god I'm in a position to absorb an expensive little mistake like this.

I'll do his little plan and I'll also do extra non strava miles. No watch.

I gave him two and a half years of my running history. He obviously didn't look at it.

What’s the rest of it, just garbage miles?

That seems really odd.

You’ve got to communicate with him and let him know how advanced you are.

I mean, if you wanna slum it with me, that’s fine, but you’re faster than that.

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Helluva a racing season there.

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You tryna die bro?

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I may be way overshooting what I can do, so we’ll see! I don’t really have audacious time goals for any of those races. I’d like to snag a 2 hour half and feel in complete control of the full, but I just want to finish the ultras.

A beginning of a training cycle for me, and he and I discussed this, was 60 miles with a continued buildup. Summer is a building phase every coach worth a damn uses summer like this. There is no build. He wants to take me to the mid forties until July then take another week off. This would not give me the opportunity to peak for a November marathon.

It’s like he doesn’t respect the training and work I put in and wants to tear down the foundation. He’s zone 2ing me bruh. Nothing but garbage miles.

He and I have a talk on Monday. I'm going to tell him his plan is not what I'm looking for and thanks but no thanks. Then I'm going to buy a Lydiard book and follow it.

No hard feelings, but this plan just feels like he's covering his arse or something. No risk; very cookie cutter.

I should have just sent you the money. I'm sure you could come up with something more inspired than what I got.

Yeah, that's a good callout. All the proceeds go to the elite training bucket he coaches. I was looking for a coach that did the Lydiard thing, don't know if that's his style, but what I'm coming to find out is if you are a novice or a pro, get a coach. If you are advanced or sub elite, get a book.

I know that he also believes in coaching runners to become their own coaches too. He is a guru of sorts when it comes to adaptive training. The foundation of his philosophy is definitely Lydiard.

I know we are different runners, but If I had your talent and determination, that is who I would seek out. That is coming from a runner and a psychologist. Worth a look at least.

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and I say that as BAA where they teach us to be sociopaths.

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Maybe in the extreme. There’s certainly nothing unhealthy about being competitive and a little paranoid of others. The competitor works around the clock to get an edge over his opponents though discipline and a strong work ethic. The sociopath puts the opponent out of business by paying people to post negative reviews about them or breaking their knee cap in an alleyway before a competition.

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Coach's plan just came through. He's going to train me like I'm a beginner.

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This is what my guy did too FWIW. You are obviously WAY ahead of me in all terms.

We haven't gotten to the speed work yet. We've been building miles over the first two months. I presume that once I get my base built (30 miles/week) that we will start working on my goal of 7 min miles.