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re: Official Running Log/Marathon Training Thread
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:53 pm to StringedInstruments
Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:53 pm to StringedInstruments
You can absolutely do both. I lift heavy every other day and run 5-6 days a week. If you periodize both just right, you get the most out of both.
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Posted on 5/16/20 at 7:59 pm to StringedInstruments
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I don’t want to stop strength training, so it’s going to be interesting to see if I can truly do both. I believe I can as evidenced by a separate post from the other day.
Goal is to start with 10 miles this week and bump up 2-3 miles each week. There’s a half marathon in October I’m eyeing, so plenty of time to do a slow build up.
Training legs will be crucial but you have to work the right percentages
The volume with those many miles will eventually wreck your legs and performance will get worse
Also be sure to use those long slow runs and mix in some speed work.
This post was edited on 5/16/20 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 5/17/20 at 7:31 am to niceandeasy
I heavily researched running watches and the 35 was really good for the price. I got it refurbished for $79 or so on Amazon.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 10:48 am to Tornado Alley
I completed my longest run of the year today at 12 miles. I foolishly ran without fueling before going out (basically two cups of black tea), so I was feeling it around mile 10. I've also been eating at a deficit to lose weight, which also worked against me in the stored energy department. Luckily I brought a GU with me and consumed it about an hour into the run or else I would have really been on the struggle bus.
Next week I plan to do 13.1 in under 2 hours, which I should be able accomplish based on today's time. And eat something before going out.
Next week I plan to do 13.1 in under 2 hours, which I should be able accomplish based on today's time. And eat something before going out.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 12:44 pm to McVick
A bowl of oatmeal with a little butter and honey and a cup of coffee is good fuel for moi.
Posted on 5/17/20 at 3:22 pm to Tornado Alley
Trails are so hard
I need to stick to the pavement
I need to stick to the pavement
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:50 am to hogbody
I think I've become accustomed to the 10 mi, 90 min long run on Saturday/Sunday. The 9 min pace is comfortable. Even though I'm in Zone 4, it never feels like a hard run. I'm going to start adding a mile at the pace and building from there.
I wasn't sure it was possible, but I feel like I'm getting lazy at 30 mpw.
I wasn't sure it was possible, but I feel like I'm getting lazy at 30 mpw.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:10 am to Salmon
3.5 today. 12:21 pace. frick.
Didn’t need to be that slow but I strained my groin doing squats on Friday. I get bad adductor DOMS after squats, and I think I’m going to take a break from heavy back squats for a while. Work on mobility and strengthening the adductors.
Didn’t need to be that slow but I strained my groin doing squats on Friday. I get bad adductor DOMS after squats, and I think I’m going to take a break from heavy back squats for a while. Work on mobility and strengthening the adductors.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 3:58 pm to StringedInstruments
I’ve been doing tempo runs on Monday (slow mile at around 9:40, two fast miles at around 7:40, slow mile at around 9:40), very slow runs on Tuesday and Wednesday (10:00/mile pace), and marathon pace (8:25-8:35/mile) runs on Saturday). For the marathon pace runs (Saturday), my bpm has been in the low 160s. I’ve kept my easy runs (Tuesday and Wednesday) in the low 150s.
I plan to keep this similar schedule until I begin marathon training in August. I will add extra distance on my tempo runs and marathon pace runs, peaking at a six mile tempo and 12 mile marathon pace. I will also eventually add a fifth running day per week and probably run in a “general aerobic” range (probably 9:00-9:10/mile). I’ll cap at 36 mpw.
In sum:
4-6 mile Tempo run on Monday (9:40/mi slow and 7:40/mile fast)
7 mile easy runs on Tuesday and Wednesday (10:00/mile pace and keep the heart rate near 150)
3-4 mile general aerobic runs on Thursday (beginning in week 7 and at a 9:10ish/mile pace)
9-12 mile marathon pace run on Saturday (8:30ish/mile and bpm in the low to mid 160s)
I have 12 weeks until marathon training where I will use the Pfitzinger book. Until then, how does this look for base training?
I plan to keep this similar schedule until I begin marathon training in August. I will add extra distance on my tempo runs and marathon pace runs, peaking at a six mile tempo and 12 mile marathon pace. I will also eventually add a fifth running day per week and probably run in a “general aerobic” range (probably 9:00-9:10/mile). I’ll cap at 36 mpw.
In sum:
4-6 mile Tempo run on Monday (9:40/mi slow and 7:40/mile fast)
7 mile easy runs on Tuesday and Wednesday (10:00/mile pace and keep the heart rate near 150)
3-4 mile general aerobic runs on Thursday (beginning in week 7 and at a 9:10ish/mile pace)
9-12 mile marathon pace run on Saturday (8:30ish/mile and bpm in the low to mid 160s)
I have 12 weeks until marathon training where I will use the Pfitzinger book. Until then, how does this look for base training?
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 5/18/20 at 4:01 pm to StringedInstruments
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3.5 today. 12:21 pace. frick.
Didn’t need to be that slow
what zone where you in tho
stop worrying about pace unless its an 85%+ effort day.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:43 pm to Tornado Alley
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A bowl of oatmeal with a little butter and honey and a cup of coffee is good fuel for moi
I’m having trouble figuring out how to fuel for morning runs. Everything I eat gives me the runs. I may have to try that, sans the coffee. Sounds good!
Posted on 5/18/20 at 5:56 pm to niceandeasy
White rice with eggs bru
Very easy to digest and easy on the stomach
Very easy to digest and easy on the stomach
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:07 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Rough one today after my lift
6 rounds 1 min max effort sprint then 2 min rest
6 rounds 1 min max effort sprint then 2 min rest
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:24 pm to niceandeasy
I eat oatmeal with butter and honey/brown sugar and two cups of coffee for breakfast 6/7 days per week. I poop at the same time each day too 
Posted on 5/18/20 at 7:32 pm to Tornado Alley
I would probably try to add more volume and cut down on the marathon paced stuff.
I’m following the 18/55 plan now. Didn’t really build into it (most recently running 30-40 mpw with two very hard-for me-workouts and whatever else fit around them),but I peaked at 60 mpw of mostly easy mileage over the winter, and I think that that’s helping a lot with some of the longer midweek stuff. The 18/55 plan has a decent number of rest and recovery days, though, so it may not be that big of a deal depending upon what plan you choose.
I’m following the 18/55 plan now. Didn’t really build into it (most recently running 30-40 mpw with two very hard-for me-workouts and whatever else fit around them),but I peaked at 60 mpw of mostly easy mileage over the winter, and I think that that’s helping a lot with some of the longer midweek stuff. The 18/55 plan has a decent number of rest and recovery days, though, so it may not be that big of a deal depending upon what plan you choose.
This post was edited on 5/18/20 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:11 pm to Tornado Alley
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4-6 mile Tempo run on Monday (9:40/mi slow and 7:40/mile fast) 7 mile easy runs on Tuesday and Wednesday (10:00/mile pace and keep the heart rate near 150) 3-4 mile general aerobic runs on Thursday (beginning in week 7 and at a 9:10ish/mile pace) 9-12 mile marathon pace run on Saturday (8:30ish/mile and bpm in the low to mid 160s)
Every month you ask and every month we tell you to spread out your rest days. Why ask anymore? Spread out your rest days... You don't have to be in marathon training to follow that book.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 8:43 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
I keep forgetting to do that. Whoops. I can move Wednesday’s run to Thursday.
Monday - run
Tuesday - run
Wednesday - rest
Thursday - run
Friday - rest
Saturday - run
Sunday - rest
Monday - run
Tuesday - run
Wednesday - rest
Thursday - run
Friday - rest
Saturday - run
Sunday - rest
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:17 pm to Tornado Alley
Didn’t you have 5 days in your first plan?
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:26 pm to hogbody
Nope. Never ran more than four in a week. I want to add a fifth day because the third week of Pfitz has five days and it continues from there. I won’t add a fifth day until seven weeks from now though.
Posted on 5/18/20 at 9:48 pm to hogbody
When Pfitz goes to five days, Sundays and Thursdays are rest days.
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