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re: Conservatives of the PB, do you have any liberal views?

Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:18 am to
Posted by DatNolaClap
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2015
1842 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:18 am to
I have personal viewpoints. They shouldn't have to be labeled either liberal or conservative. Every issue isn't black and white. You can't put people into only two categories. People are more complex than that. Until we stop labeling people and and ideas as strictly conservative/liberal we won't evolve past the broken party system that has pitted us all against each other. With that being said, I'd say about 70% of my views would traditionally be labeled as conservative and the other 30% would be traditionally labeled as liberal.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 10:51 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43063 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:19 am to
quote:

quote:
but there are black fathers in jail for less possession than you'd probably find in the average suburban home.

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Do you have facts to back up this assertion or did you simply pull it from thin air?


I’m with you. I firmly believe that these convicts in for “possession” are really there because they plea bargained a more serious charge down. There may be a few exceptions but I’d need to see them cited rather than take the word of sky screamers.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58310 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:20 am to
My views on decriminalizing pot would probably be seen as liberal.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 10:21 am
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5517 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:20 am to
I’m kind of a tree hugger sometimes.
I’m for marijuana legalization.
I’m for gay marriage.
I’m pro choice.

That’s about it. I’m pretty conservative on most everything fiscally related and regarding the ever expanding size of our government and law books. I think conservatism is slowly trending my way.

Let’s not die on the mountain of contrived social issues, and just live free.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:20 am to
Legalize drugs and prostitution and allow DR assisted suicide.

Get rid of all blue laws.

Gay marriage is fine

If someone wants to cut their dick off that's fine too.

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53335 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:21 am to
Plus when ghetto drug man goes to jail he gets to hang out with his friends and gets free food, it’s a vacation for him

When suburban mom gets a slap on the wrist she could lose her job, get kicked out of social circles, etc. it really is a devastating blow
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:22 am to
quote:

Conservatives of the PB, do you have any liberal views?


Well, after observing the antics of the left for the past several decades, I may be starting to agree with the leftists about the need to use concentration camps and gulags to imprison one's political enemies.

Besides that, not really, pretty much a pure conservative here.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 10:23 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
424964 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:23 am to
this thread is funny b/c i always hear how "right wing" this site is but we have like 20+ people, without hesitation, talking about legalizing drugs and whores...hell a good chunk are for gay marriage
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119280 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I’m kind of a tree hugger sometimes.


I think environmentalism for the sake of the environment is good. For example, don't allow companies to discharge waste containing dioxin into rivers where it potentially gets into our water supply and causes cancer.

However environmentalism for the sake of implementing bigger socialists government is the problem. For example, climate change.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61281 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:24 am to
quote:

I think drugs should be legalized, as well as prostitution - just tax the hell out of it

Why?




Purely logistical reasons. It's likely the only way you'd be able to get the rest of the GOP base on board with it. Personally, I'm all for elimination of all taxes except a National Retail Sales tax, abolish the IRS and repeal the 16th amendment.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51817 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:25 am to
I could care less if toddy fricks his baw in the arse.


I could care less if people smoke weed
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11100 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:25 am to
Seems like most of these “liberal views” are actually libertarian, or am I missing something?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135171 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:26 am to
quote:

Purely logistical reasons. It's likely the only way you'd be able to get the rest of the GOP base on board with it.

If true, that just shows you how twisted the GOP has become. The only way they'll accept liberty is if it's heavily taxed
Posted by geauxtigahs87
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
26270 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:26 am to
Don't know if you would consider these libertarian views or classically liberal ones, but...

Don't care about homosexuals wanting to get married, don't care about transgender ADULTS wanting to make physical changes to their bodies, have no issue with the legalization of marijuana or prostitution.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135171 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:26 am to
quote:

I could care less

How much less?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83664 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:27 am to
most of my "liberal" views are really driven by my conservative views of personal liberty

Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51817 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:27 am to
A lot less.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29827 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:27 am to
quote:

there are black fathers in jail for less possession than you'd probably find in the average suburban home.
The one thing people always conveniently leave out in these "examples" is prior criminal records.

Do you think a white suburban mother with no prior criminal record should get the same sentence as a black man with a lengthy criminal record for the same offense?

Kind of an important factor when trying to compare "apples to apples".

When you hear of a black man going to jail for simple possession and get all outraged, maybe consider if he broke his probation and that's why he is doing jail time.

I have a friend who's white son did 2 years for breaking into a car. Sound a little harsh? Not when you realize that he broke his probation.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 10:41 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119280 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Seems like most of these “liberal views” are actually libertarian


Liberal used to be very libertarian. I guess now liberal means progressivism which really is socialism voted in through democratic means.
Posted by Tiger Roux
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
4940 posts
Posted on 7/9/18 at 10:29 am to
I believe laws that try and legislate morality are not effective and counter productive.

The amount of money and lives destroyed by this approach is mind boggling.

Fiscal conservative. MAGA
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