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re: New Study on Rising Suicide Rates Suggests Capitalism Is Quite Literally Killing Us
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:20 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:20 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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it just hasn't been implemented properly
First and foremost, it literally can't be implemented properly as long as the corruptible human spirit is involved.
Second, the entire idea of everyone getting the same treatment/success regardless of individual work ethic or competence is poisonous and counterproductive. Why do anything if you get the same treatment for doing nothing? It goes against the very laws of nature.
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Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:23 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
And communism literally killed over 100 MILLION
WSJ
WSJ
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:28 pm to rowbear1922
imagine you have worked nearly all your life building a home, sending your kids to college and saving for retirement.
Now let the reality hit you after a wife of 25 years decides she want's to find herself and takes her half of everything both of you have planned and worked for as a team.
All of a sudden you are facing the fact that what would have supported two in comfort leaves one struggling. There's no going back so now you have to suck it up and soldier on but to think that it can't lead to fear and desperation is misguided.
Now after a few years of doing all you can to catch up you are still struggling. Untreated clinical depression, especially in one who has always had pride in being able to work their way though difficult times without help, is insidious in the ways it affects ones thinking.
would it surprise you that someone in this situation may not have the thought to seek professional help believing it is admitting failure and the trusted partner he always relied on to offer advice is out of the picture.
Can you imagine in the control of a condition that fuels despair and desperation they decide having lost their fight to accept this choice as a way to escape the shame and embarrassment.
Now let the reality hit you after a wife of 25 years decides she want's to find herself and takes her half of everything both of you have planned and worked for as a team.
All of a sudden you are facing the fact that what would have supported two in comfort leaves one struggling. There's no going back so now you have to suck it up and soldier on but to think that it can't lead to fear and desperation is misguided.
Now after a few years of doing all you can to catch up you are still struggling. Untreated clinical depression, especially in one who has always had pride in being able to work their way though difficult times without help, is insidious in the ways it affects ones thinking.
would it surprise you that someone in this situation may not have the thought to seek professional help believing it is admitting failure and the trusted partner he always relied on to offer advice is out of the picture.
Can you imagine in the control of a condition that fuels despair and desperation they decide having lost their fight to accept this choice as a way to escape the shame and embarrassment.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:49 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
At least under capitalism you have the choice to off yourself. If leftists have there way, they’ll liquidate you without consent if you don’t follow party line.
Posted on 6/24/18 at 11:53 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Yeah, that's definitely my most trusted news source.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:18 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Work 5 days a week, 2 days off. Sunday is spent with dread that you have work tomorrow. Viscous cycle
Posted on 6/25/18 at 12:26 am to Old Money
It always brings me joy and hope when one of these little shite heads finished their copy of People’s History of America or Marx’s manifesto and come in here to try and change the world and gets promptly and correctly shite on.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 2:13 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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30 to 70 percent of Americans who end their own lives are suffering from either severe depression or bipolar disorder.
Um kind of a wide range huh? Why not just say 10%-90%
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:04 am to geauxtigahs87
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Is this supposed to be satire?
It's a socialist website.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 4:09 am to Eurocat
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The reason it has not worked is because it has never been tried with good old fashioned American style inguinity.
Socialism kills ingenuity.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:59 am to rowbear1922
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Social media is the real issue. Everyone sees snipits of people’s best times and wonder why they aren’t living life like _______.
This is the real cause. People have more luxuries today than ever before, even the poor.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:08 am to OMLandshark
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out of 10 suicide victims in this country are white men. Let that sink in to where there's some truth to this.
White men do hard drugs at a higher rate than any other demographic. I've known personally 8 people who killed themselves, all had been dealing with drug/alcohol issues that caused their life to spiral out of control.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:13 am to Rogers Hog
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imagine you have worked nearly all your life building a home, sending your kids to college and saving for retirement.
Now let the reality hit you after a wife of 25 years decides she want's to find herself and takes her half of everything both of you have planned and worked for as a team.
All of a sudden you are facing the fact that what would have supported two in comfort leaves one struggling. There's no going back so now you have to suck it up and soldier on but to think that it can't lead to fear and desperation is misguided.
Now after a few years of doing all you can to catch up you are still struggling. Untreated clinical depression, especially in one who has always had pride in being able to work their way though difficult times without help, is insidious in the ways it affects ones thinking.
would it surprise you that someone in this situation may not have the thought to seek professional help believing it is admitting failure and the trusted partner he always relied on to offer advice is out of the picture.
Can you imagine in the control of a condition that fuels despair and desperation they decide having lost their fight to accept this choice as a way to escape the shame and embarrassment.
I would imagine the grief and loss my kids would face and not want to put them through it. Everyone has bad times and struggles. It's how you respond to that struggle that show the true character of a person.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:17 am to ShortyRob
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relentless redistribution of wealth from the bottom 90 percent to the top 1 percent
I hate this talking point because it assumes the supply of money to be constant. The top 1% can get richer while the bottom 90 increases wealth at the same time. So it's not redistribution at all
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:18 am to rowbear1922
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Everyone has bad times and struggles. It's how you respond to that struggle that show the true character of a person.
You know nothing of extreme depression.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:25 am to rowbear1922
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Social media is the real issue. Everyone sees snipits of people’s best times and wonder why they aren’t living life like _______.
They get depressed and yea.
this is a big part of it. there are all sorts of legit social ills exploding due to social media
but also, suicide/unhappiness tracks with intelligence so as our society becomes more intelligent and knowledgeable, you're going to face these issues on a wider scale. in an ironic way, these are issues of abundance (which is why all the progressives who act like our abundant society should be communal to allow our social creativity to explode is so off base)
this is all based in a fundamental misunderstanding of what makes us happy. i can't speak for women as much, but men have, by and large, lost sight of this. it's partly due to social advancement and abundance and partly due to things like our society being feminized, but it's real.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:25 am to TH03
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You know nothing of extreme depression.
Apparently not, I guess I've never been in the situation were a possible outcome is to take my own life.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:27 am to TH03
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You know nothing of extreme depression.
there is a legit question as to how much depression (as in a long-term issue) plays into this recent trend
everyone goes through short term bouts with depression, but that doesn't mean they should be diagnosed on the manic/depressive scale
i'd wager a great number of these cases forming this trend would not be subject to depression as a long-term status
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:32 am to OMLandshark
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why the Middle East started getting exceptionally violent in the past century:
Dissolving of the Ottoman Empire post WW1 where Western European powers and the US redrew the borders of many countries without any understanding of the region at all leading to many conflicting religious sects competing for power
Posted on 6/25/18 at 8:37 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Why would anyone dispute the conclusions of the study? As long as the uber wealth 1% horde the wealth at the expense of everyone else, this is one (and just one) of the consequences.
We need some form of wealth redistribution or society will collapse.
I'm not even sure if bumping minimum wage to at least $15 per hour will help any more.
We'll look like Brazil with its violent slums if we don't fix this problem.
We need some form of wealth redistribution or society will collapse.
I'm not even sure if bumping minimum wage to at least $15 per hour will help any more.
We'll look like Brazil with its violent slums if we don't fix this problem.
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