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re: Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:17 pm to Solo
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:17 pm to Solo
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AD is our 5 and JR should feast in the paint against second units.
With his post scoring and passing ability I also wonder if he could elevate Moore and Miller with easy shots like Cousins did.
I get what cgrand and Teddy are saying about starting Hill, and I think this is an "If it ain't broke don't fix it" kind of decision that could be easily changed. However if you start Hill can you start Payton too? And if you don't start Payton how does that impact Jrue? I'd be more focused on maximizing Jrue than Moore or Hill. Jrue can swing a game for you on any given night, Moore and Hill have that ability probably less than 5 games a year.
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Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:21 pm to TigerinATL
payton + hill (+randle?) together is suboptimal but to teddy's point, what does hill provide off the bench? pels need to be showcasing the dude so they can get something/anything for him and the only way to do that is play him with AD & holiday
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:32 pm to cgrand
would a trade for Kyle Korver be something we should try and what do you think that trade would look like?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:32 pm to GynoSandberg
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*whispers* Terry Rozier fits in the Pelicans' $3.8M trade exception
I'm not sure New Orleans wants to part with another first-round pick for Rozier after sending a first to Chicago last year for Mirotic, but he'd be a fascinating fit on the Pellies
Siegel
sorry I know this a few pages back but just throwing my 2 cents in here. Boston wouldn't give up Rozier for cap space. We'd have to give them something. And with that being said, I'm not a Rozier fan and I wouldn't want to spend assets on him
I am however a fan of Delon Wright, a true 'Gentry-baller', (thank you Kumar) and would give up assets for him in a heartbeat
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:33 pm to cgrand
That was more of my point cgrand, so thanks.
If Hill can't do anythign for us, then trading him away will be very difficult, and we will have to give away things just to give him up. ALl i want is for his contract to not be a negative asset. Just be a neutral asset where he's just a salary matcher, and still a guy that can give you minutes, as opposed to someone like Ajinca who is just salary.
It'll be hard enough to convince a team like Dallas/Milwaukee/Charlotte to take him for the guys we want from them with the picks we'll include. If he has so much negative value, then the pick is simply to get rid of him, as opposed to getting the player we are going after, and then we don't have the assets to get those guys unless we can give them enough expirings.
If Hill can't do anythign for us, then trading him away will be very difficult, and we will have to give away things just to give him up. ALl i want is for his contract to not be a negative asset. Just be a neutral asset where he's just a salary matcher, and still a guy that can give you minutes, as opposed to someone like Ajinca who is just salary.
It'll be hard enough to convince a team like Dallas/Milwaukee/Charlotte to take him for the guys we want from them with the picks we'll include. If he has so much negative value, then the pick is simply to get rid of him, as opposed to getting the player we are going after, and then we don't have the assets to get those guys unless we can give them enough expirings.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:38 pm to cgrand
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pels need to be showcasing the dude
This may look a little different once they add another guard, but for now if Payton and Jrue are your starters I could see Hill getting to play a bit of a Point Forward role off the bench sharing the ball handling duties with Clark and Jackson. If Miller is your Small Ball 4 that gives him 3 catch and shoot targets plus Randle. I'm not sure he's actually up for that role, being able to dribble to the basket and not finish is far different from creating offense for others, but he has shown the separate skills of dribble penetration and passing. Can he do them at the same time?
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:57 pm to TigerinATL
Was about to post about point forward Solo potential bench units.
If Frank can do some things, a Frank-Miller-Solo-Randle-Niko lineup really intrigues me as a rotation sitting Jrue-AD that might not shite the bed.
If Frank can do some things, a Frank-Miller-Solo-Randle-Niko lineup really intrigues me as a rotation sitting Jrue-AD that might not shite the bed.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 5:06 pm to cgrand
Nobody. Just been a Pels/Hornets fan a long time and used to like reading the discourse on this board long before I signed up.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 5:08 pm to NOFOX
If Frank gives us anything positive this season, I'm ecstatic. I'm cautiously optimistic he can give a solid 10 mpg.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 5:38 pm to DeionDeion
He has the talent to contribute. I just hope he can stay healthy
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:03 pm to TeddyPadillac
I’ll preface this post by saying that I never agree with anything Fletcher says. That said, am I the only one who likes the idea of Fournier here? You could send Hill/Ajinca and a 1st for him. You don’t have to worry about him leaving (Butler/Barnes/Middleton) as you would if with the three mentioned as he’s signed for a few years. He’s on a reasonable salary, he’s a great floor spacer and can be an adequate defender. You can then move Moore back to the bench where I think is his best fit. Next offseason, you’d have AD, Jrue, Fournier, Moore and Jackson on the books plus Niko’s cap hold. And hopefully work with Randle with a wink wink to give him bigger money the following offseason. Thoughts?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:50 pm to Pelicub
Not a Fournier fan for this squad. He is really bad on the defensive end. Like really bad. Plus he is a SG/SF tweener.
Honestly I’d rather have Moore with his contract & skill-set over Fournier and his contract & skill-set every time
Honestly I’d rather have Moore with his contract & skill-set over Fournier and his contract & skill-set every time
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:42 pm to DeionDeion
Why do you say hes really bad?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:19 pm to Pelicub
Fletcher will always push for the foreign player. I am not sure why. Maybe he thinks it makes him sound like he knows something about the NBA?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:37 pm to NOSHAU
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Keith Pompey
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According to a league source, the #Sixers have had discussions about trading Jerryd Bayless to the #Cleveland #Cavs for Kyle Korver.
Cleveland looks to be looking to dump salary. They would save more by trading Korver to us for Ajinca. However, we would take on $7.5 million in salary for next offseason. I wonder if Dell would consider this.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:41 pm to NOSHAU
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I just hope the speculation of them creating space to potentially take on Ryan Anderson's contract due not come to pass. It would stink if they bail the Rockets out of that albatross contract.
Sam Amico
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#Rockets and #Kings may be discussing a Ryan Anderson trade, by @amathur90. #NBA
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:54 pm to NOSHAU
Vlade’s going to bail Morey out of that trash Reno deal. That’s ridiculous.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:03 pm to NOSHAU
Wtf do the Kings get out of that? A late first round pick?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:11 pm to LesGeaux45
A pick and Ryno is from Sacramento. When he was a FA they were one of the teams expected to drive up his price high enough that Dell should have known better and traded him.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 11:57 pm to TigerinATL
shite I’d ask for 2 firsts to take Ryno
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