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Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread

Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:06 am
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:06 am
Players Under Contract Going into the Offseason:
Jrue Holiday - 4 years/$25.7 mil left
Anthony Davis - 3 years/$23.8 mil left
Nikola Mirotic - 1 year/$12.5 mil left
Solomon Hill - 2 years/$12.2 mil left
Etwaun Moore - 2 years/$8.4 mil left
Alexis Ajinca - 1 year/$4.9 mil left
Darius Miller - 1 year/$2.1 mil left (non-guaranteed)
Chiek Diallo - 1 year/$1.3 mil left
Frank Jackson - 2 years/815k left
Emeka Okafor - 1 year/592k left (non-guaranteed)
DeAndre Liggins - 1 year/588k left (non-guaranteed)

Around $92.8 mil are on the books for the 2018-19 season
NBA projects a $101 mil salary cap
NBA projects a $123 mil luxury tax cap


Important Dates
May 15th
-NBA Draft Lottery

July 1st
-Free Agency Begins
Full List of Free Agents
-Official start of the 2018/19 NBA league year
-Free agents can begin reaching verbal agreements with teams
-Restricted free agents can sign an offer sheet
-Teams can begin signing players to rookie scale contracts, minimum salary contracts, and two-way contracts.

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Scott Kushner @ScottDKushner 1 minute ago

Sources tell me Elfrid Payton’s one year deal with the Pelicans is worth more than the veteran minimum.

Still don’t have an exact price, but it’s likely to fit under the bi-annual exception (less than $3.5 million).



quote:

@wojespn: Rondo is signing a one-year deal with Lakers, per source.


quote:

@wojespn: Free agent Julius Randle has agreed to a two-year, $18M deal with New Orleans, league sources tell ESPN. Player option second year.




July 6th
-Teams can begin officially signing players, extending players, and completing trades.

July 6th-July 17th
-NBA Summer League

October 2018
-The Pelicans begin their utter decimation of the League
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:14 am to
To me, this offseason is all about turning shite into shinola.

We have to convert the margins of the roster into useable players that can contribute. Wings that can defend. Multiple ballhandlers. Roster flexibility.

We need to turn Solomon Hill and Alexis Ajinca etc into useful players.

Find a way to bring Rondo back which will be difficult.

We almost certainly re-sign Cousins.


We will not be in on the Paul George's and Kawhi Leonard's of the world (I sincerely hope that's a statement that gets bumped).
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25428 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:20 am to
just for shits and giggles, if Paul George wants to come here in a S&T, we would have to renounce Cousins, and offer enough back in a trade where our total salary after the trade stayed under the cap, or something slightly over it?

So if PG signs a new 5 year deal worth $30M the first year, then we need to send back around $22M, assuming we aren't keeping Cousins? Solo/Moore/Ajinca

If we wanted to keep Cousins, then we'd need to send back equal trade value to S&T for George? Solo/Niko/Moore

Does that sound right?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:31 am to
quote:

We have to convert the margins of the roster into useable players that can contribute


And this FA class is pretty bad. I'm not sure there are many worthwhile ring chasing vets to target 2018 Free Agents

The Buyout Market mid season could be interesting though. If the Pels continue their strong play maybe they can add a Wes Matthews or Garrett Temple.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:45 am to
quote:

If we wanted to keep Cousins, then we'd need to send back equal trade value to S&T for George?


You cannot receive a player in a S&T if you will be above the Tax Apron after the trade, which next year would be about $127 million. To do that you need to cut Okafor/Liggins and renounce rights to Rondo (you'd have to use the MLE to bring him back) and not sign Cousins first so it's just his cap hold on the books. Then you only have to send out about $26 million meaning one of Solo/Niko + Moore + Ajinca should be enough to bring back George.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:48 am to
I mean, you obviously do all of that to get Paul George if you can, but its not going to happen.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:55 am to
If you're a top level FA I don't know how you choose between Philly and the Pels. Philly seems like the better long term bet with their clean cap sheet and young talent, but their talent is young. They just seem like they're more a few years away from taking the next step rather than a star player away from taking the next step. The Pels seem to be at that age where a Paul George could step in and make them instant contenders, or at least raise them to whatever level Houston and Cleveland are.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115394 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:59 am to
I'm assuming PG just goes to the Lakers like everyone believes.
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
6728 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:07 am to
How about Michael Beasley?

I know he is a knucklehead and all, but I think his best fit is as a SF.

Think he averaged 13 this year and played for Gentry when they were in Phoenix as a SF. Would probably come fairly cheap.
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
11657 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:00 pm to
The only trade that makes sense in my mind and is actually feasible is a trade for DeMarre Carroll. I think we can swing Spencer Dinwiddie in this trade as well. The Nets own their 1st round pick for the first time in 6 years so they are going to tank at a level we have not seen before. I believe a trade of Solo/Ajinca//1st could work. We get a solid 3&D wing and a good backup PG, they get a hell of a lot worse and they get another first round pick. Both teams are helped on their way to their ultimate goal.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17424 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:08 pm to
Is Carroll that much of an upgrade over a healthy Solo?
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17424 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:11 pm to
Also, Carroll will be 32 next year...seems like throwing in a first is a lot for a guy that age.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:13 pm to
The defense probably isn't that different but Carroll is more proven as a usable offensive player. The problem with Carroll is he's at that age and injury history where he'll be declining. Even if you keep him more cheaply long term than Solo, a declining slight upgrade doesn't seem like a fix worth giving up a draft pick or young prospect like Diallo for.
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25844 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

We need to turn Solomon Hill and Alexis Ajinca etc into useful players.


I’d have confidence in Dell doing this if he had 6 more first round draft picks to throw away.
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
11657 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Is Carroll that much of an upgrade over a healthy Solo?


Yes. Look at any metric you want and it will tell you that Carroll is a significant upgrade over Solo, especially the Solo we’ve seen since returning from injury. Even last year Solo was below replacement level as a wing, I mean the man had a PER of 8 and a TS% of 52. And all of that was before a hamstring injury that seems to have sapped him of a lot of his athleticism. If there are any better realistic trades that y’all can think of I’m all ears. I’m just not sure there any out there that are better than this.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61435 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

If there are any better realistic trades that y’all can think of I’m all ears.


The team was 21-13 post Boogie. Why do they need to make a significant move this offseason? There should be a good bit of high level player movement in the next nine months. The better trades aren't knowable right now and the better run teams are usually in a position to wait for the right opportunity to pop up. What the better teams don't do is burn a first to turn a D+ into a C- because the GM's on the hot seat.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 1:06 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38636 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 3:56 pm to
the summer starts and ends with cousins
we can fret about it all we want but the pels are gonna do whatever they decide to do and it appears likely that playing hardball with boogie isn’t going to happen.

I would jump for joy if they were able to swing a S/T but that’s so complicated and there’s just not many options available out there
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63431 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 6:55 pm to
[quote]Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
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Could I see the paperwork on that?
Posted by DeionDeion
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
6110 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Could I see the paperwork on that?


Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
20897 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:06 pm to
quote:

The team was 21-13 post Boogie. Why do they need to make a significant move this offseason?


I agree with this. I'd try to run it back with the same team as much as possible with bench boogie. Then at the deadline ajinca contract + a pick and maybe a solid player like Moore gets you a really good wing. I'd rather build depth this offseason.
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