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re: Official 2018 Pelicans Offseason Thread
Posted on 7/19/18 at 2:06 pm to cgrand
Posted on 7/19/18 at 2:06 pm to cgrand
The plan as of today is to bring Randle off the bench. Start Payton-Jrue-Moore-AD-Niko
Curious to see if that holds all season. I could see the staff being tempted to use him against high scoring 3's and 4's like Lebron, KD, PG-13, Tobias Harris, etc.
The more I look at it, the more I think its possible to finish games with Randle, AD, and Niko. At least against some teams.
Curious to see if that holds all season. I could see the staff being tempted to use him against high scoring 3's and 4's like Lebron, KD, PG-13, Tobias Harris, etc.
The more I look at it, the more I think its possible to finish games with Randle, AD, and Niko. At least against some teams.
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Posted on 7/19/18 at 2:20 pm to Crewz
What if they’d just have Randle or AD guard the 3 in that situation?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 2:24 pm to CocoLoco
Depends on who the "3" is
I think it is so specific to each team. Example - I think Lakers finish games small with something like:
Ball, Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, Lebron
Can't have our three bigs out there. I probably have Niko on the bench there
But against Utah, they finish with
Rubio, Mitchell, Ingles, Crowder or Favors, Gobert
I can finish with all three of my bigs there and Randle can defend Ingles
I think it is so specific to each team. Example - I think Lakers finish games small with something like:
Ball, Hart, Ingram, Kuzma, Lebron
Can't have our three bigs out there. I probably have Niko on the bench there
But against Utah, they finish with
Rubio, Mitchell, Ingles, Crowder or Favors, Gobert
I can finish with all three of my bigs there and Randle can defend Ingles
Posted on 7/19/18 at 2:37 pm to Crewz
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The plan as of today is to bring Randle off the bench. Start Payton-Jrue-Moore-AD-Niko
This is surprising to me. My thinking was if they were starting Moore at the 3, they'd be starting Randle, and if Hill started, they'd start Niko.
I just guessed that Randle was basically promised a starting spot to come over here, but I suppose that was not the case. Not that starting really matters, as I expect them all to get close to, if not over, 30 minutes per game.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 2:40 pm to Epic Cajun
They love the way they finished the season and they feel like the best way to get off to a fast start is with continuity. Basically, Payton replaces Rondo and everything else stays the same.
But now, you have a better bench than you had last season because you have Randle and a healthy Hill in place of Okafor and a hampered Hill. Not to mention anything Frank Jackson can give you
But now, you have a better bench than you had last season because you have Randle and a healthy Hill in place of Okafor and a hampered Hill. Not to mention anything Frank Jackson can give you
Posted on 7/19/18 at 2:44 pm to Epic Cajun
Rondo
Jrue
Moore
Niko
AD
Post Boogie that group played 204 minutes together in the regular season with an elite 97.4 DRtg, 114.1 ORtg and a NetRtg of 16.8. LINK
That level of success probably is reason enough to hope you can swap Payton for Rondo and get similar results.
Jrue
Moore
Niko
AD
Post Boogie that group played 204 minutes together in the regular season with an elite 97.4 DRtg, 114.1 ORtg and a NetRtg of 16.8. LINK
That level of success probably is reason enough to hope you can swap Payton for Rondo and get similar results.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 2:46 pm to TigerinATL
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Post Boogie that group played 204 minutes together in the regular season with an elite 97.4 DRtg, 114.1 ORtg and a NetRtg of 16.8. LINK
That level of success probably is reason enough to hope you can swap Payton for Rondo and get similar results.
I wasn't looking at it from a continuity standpoint, but that definitely makes sense.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 2:52 pm to Epic Cajun
I was surprised to see those numbers when I looked it up. Moore and Rondo give you a neutral defender and a bad defender on the perimeter. That defense shouldn't be elite, I guess AD/Jrue plus Niko's mobility covers a ton of deficiencies.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:01 pm to Crewz
If Solo is healthy, i think it's stupid for him to not be the starter at the 3. If he can't start and be productive, like 2 years ago, then he's completely worthless. His skillset provides diddly poo off then bench. Moore's skillset is exactly what you want off the bench.
I just don't believe Solo is going to continue to be as bad as he was last season. The rust has to have gotten shaken off by now, and if it has, he should be the starter.
And i say all that having zero problem with Jrue guarding the opposing teams SF when we play good ones if Moore is starting instead of Solo.
I just don't believe Solo is going to continue to be as bad as he was last season. The rust has to have gotten shaken off by now, and if it has, he should be the starter.
And i say all that having zero problem with Jrue guarding the opposing teams SF when we play good ones if Moore is starting instead of Solo.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:11 pm to TeddyPadillac
100% agree
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:20 pm to TeddyPadillac
Moore is a guy who knows his role. He doesn’t try to do too much. He knows that the floor will be spaced and it is his job to knock down the open 3s and drive when he can. Very similar to Darius Miller, 2 great role players off the bench who provide the team with a burst of energy when needed.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:48 pm to Cottonport
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Oklahoma City has agreed to trade Carmelo Anthony and a protected 2022 first-round pick to Atlanta for point guard Dennis Schroder and Mike Muscala, league sources tell ESPN. Anthony will be waived, and he will join team of his choice. Rockets are frontrunner.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:52 pm to cgrand
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It's a three team trade. Muscala will got to Philly. Justin Anderson will come to Hawks. Carmelo will be bought out. Won't be a Hawk.
quote:
Sources: As part of multi-team Carmelo Anthony/Dennis Schröder deal, Atlanta's Mike Muscala will go to Philadelphia, 76ers' Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot will be traded to Oklahoma City and 76ers' Justin Anderson to Atlanta.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 3:58 pm to TigerinATL
Randle should come off the bench. AD is our 5 and JR should feast in the paint against second units.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:00 pm to cgrand
So Atlanta gets a protected 2022 to get out from under $51.5 million of Schroeder/Muscala for $30.5 million of Anthony/Anderson. Does the trade get OKC under tax now?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:05 pm to NOSHAU
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Does the trade get OKC under tax now?
I do'nt think they are under, but i think they just saved an arse load of money, like near $100M.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:06 pm to cgrand
Be careful Bolding Timothe Luwawu Cabbarrot’s name like that. You are gonna wake 504ByrdGang From the dead.
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:09 pm to Garden of Asik
not the hero we need, but the hero we deserve
by the way,
whose alter are you?
by the way,
quote:
Registered on: 6/8/2017
whose alter are you?
This post was edited on 7/19/18 at 4:10 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:15 pm to cgrand
Posted on 7/19/18 at 4:15 pm to NOSHAU
quote:
Oklahoma City was able to accomplish two things by trading Carmelo Anthony to Atlanta, improve the roster while saving $73M this season. The Thunder will now see their projected luxury tax bill drop from $150M to $88.8M, a savings of $62M. In addition, Oklahoma City will save an additional $11M in salary savings with the Dennis Schroder $15.5M contract and the $1.5M cap hit of Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot. The Thunder now have a payroll of $148.7M, down from $159.6M. The roster in Oklahoma City also improves with the addition Schroder, a starting quality point guard that will back up Russell Westbrook and adding a young wing in Luwawu-Cabarrot. Instead of having the $9.3M dead cap hit with Anthony on the stretch provision, Oklahoma City essentially is paying $5M for the next three seasons for a 24 year-old point guard who has started 161 games in five seasons.
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