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re: Westworld s2 e3: Virtù e Fortuna

Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

MiB daughter is what I'm thinking


Bingo! She's pissed at her dad and probably her Uncle Logan.

She comes to WestWorld to frick both of them over from something she learned about the park, whether it's a revenge frick you or a power play, is up for debate.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:10 pm to
Same here. She knows a little too much to be a normal Guest. If her mom knew about Dolores, you can bet she don't want to sleep w a host.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 8:20 pm to
She definitely knows something.

If she's using it for good, bad or both is the biggest question.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 9:27 pm to
Are the Indians the bad guys? Stubbs apparently somehow survived, unless he is a host. One assumes Delos scanned him though. Indians wanted to take Sizemore or whatever his name is with them. An Indian happens upon a naked Logan in one preview. Somehow he survived.
Posted by ThatMakesSense
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Member since Aug 2015
14841 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:01 pm to
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Are the Indians the bad guys? 


Unclear. Ghost Nation story has been limited. I expect we will see more this season.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:16 pm to
Rewatching now. One thing I noticed. Under these new rules, Maeve can no longer control hosts
Posted by Someone
West Monroe, LA
Member since Jan 2007
1818 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:22 pm to
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Are the Indians the bad guys?



One theory I read said the Indians are actually saving the humans and that Elsie may have reprogrammed them.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 5:21 am to
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One theory I read said the Indians are actually saving the humans and that Elsie may have reprogrammed them.


I like it. Certainly makes it more interesting than them just running around after people and makes their interest in the Brit make sense
Posted by GetEmTigers08
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2007
1236 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 6:41 am to
I like this new chick. Hope she doesn't die too quick. I also like the idea of her being Theresa's daughter, who is maybe on the search for her missing mom. That symbol she had drawn was definitely on Bernard's tablet as well.

On my second rewatch when I saw the symbol in her notebook, something occurred to me because of the way it was drawn, it looked like a Venn diagram of sorts. She was so close to the edge of park that she literally ran across borders before running into the lake, and I'm thinking whatever role that lake plays is middle of the "Venn diagram".


Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47819 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:48 am to
Before this season started I really expected the timelines to be the present and the “incident” that happened in the past. Wonder if we will ever get a glimpse of the past host uprising.
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 10:37 am to
I have one question. How many Bernards / Arnolds are there.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:10 pm to
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How many Bernards / Arnolds are there.


1 Arnold (dead)

2 active Bernards is my guess. (although the trailer for s2 showed like 5)

I do not think the Bernard that woke up on the beach is the same Bernard that shot himself in the head on Ford's direction. If you look closely when he wakes up on the beach, the bullet scar on his temple is no longer there. But it was when he was with Charlotte and during this past episode with Dolores. I may be mistaken, but I think she touches the scar when she is speaking to him.
Posted by doubletap
Prairieville, LA
Member since May 2013
609 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 12:35 pm to
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One theory I read said the Indians are actually saving the humans and that Elsie may have reprogrammed them.

It certainly makes sense when you think about it.

-Stubbs being captured by Ghost Nation and the end of S1, then apparently released unharmed at the beginning of S2.

-Delores killing a GN dude on the beach and saying "some of us don't deserve to reach the valley beyond."

-GN trying to get Sizemore from Maeve and Hector.

-GN showing up when the new chick washes ashore from Raj World.

It almost seems like they are trying to help humans.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5450 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 1:21 pm to
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The whole philosophy of the audience cheering the hosts on as they rise against their creators after years of abuse kinda goes out the window when so far this season the show has given us practically no reason to side with Dolores or Teddy because they have just become villains.

Not just this, but I'm actively rooting against the hosts because they're nothing more than machines. The show seems to want us to think of them as human, they're not. I'd have no more of a problem shooting a host as I would destroying my echo with a baseball bat.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17163 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 3:35 pm to
Anybody else hate the pattern at HBO that once a female character gets renewed for additional seasons their appearances:tits ratio skews the wrong way?
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 3:47 pm
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20451 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:12 pm to
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the hosts... they're nothing more than machines.


Pretty sure you’ve missed the entire point of the show.
This post was edited on 5/8/18 at 7:13 pm
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
21281 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 7:39 pm to
Noticed they've had a wiener this season and no tits unless I've missed them.
Talulah Riley nude would be incredible.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89765 posts
Posted on 5/8/18 at 8:19 pm to
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Noticed they've had a wiener this season and no tits unless I've missed them.


There were some tits on a KIA in the main facility area (Maeve and Sizemore). That's all I can recall.

The women are running every group in the park, except Strand's corporate team and Bill (who just has Lawrence) - and, Strand, Charlotte may be a peer or even his superior. I'm all for feminism, but like a lot of things, WW may be taking this too far.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33984 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:43 am to
This was my first time watching an episode of Westworld. Why does Evan Rachel Wood always speak with a husky deep whisper on the show?
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
59490 posts
Posted on 5/9/18 at 6:08 am to
I haven’t read anything on this season but ran into a podcast on I Heart just called “WestWorld” by the guys on shatontv.com, whatever that is. They do 3 post show episodes per week. They aren’t particularly funny, but they do a lot of research, and it’s a nice little supplement.

They brought up the smoking chick(pun intended) in India World(which they call Raj World?) possibly being Theresa, but dismissed that pretty quickly. The 2 main theories are she is either William’s daughter or, because she was taking notes in a journal, maybe an executive spy from a rival tech company. And it makes sense that she doesn’t want to frick a host because she knows what they’re doing with the DNA gathering and wants no part f it.

Also, Seven Nation Army wasn’t in there just to sound cool. One of the guys watches with subtitles and said the ghost army speaks a particular language (Lacota?) and that that language united 7 Native Sioux tribes or something—was dozing off when he talked about that.

Also, the title of the episode is a reference to Machiavelli and one of his works about government. I didn’t get too deep down that rabbit hole, yet.
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