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re: Westworld s2 e3: Virtù e Fortuna

Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:34 pm to
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:34 pm to
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Futureworld


I must have missed that one
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:38 pm to
The woman hunting the tiger is a young host version of Bernard’s gf Theresa that Ford had him kill. The way she spoke and smoked the cigarette were identical. The hosts that have DNA are copies of real people I bet.
Posted by pevetohead
lurking behind sonic
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:42 pm to
Dolores has become the least interesting character on the show IMO. So far this whole season Dolores has pretty much turned into a mustache twirling cliche of a villain and it's gotten boring. The whole philosophy of the audience cheering the hosts on as they rise against their creators after years of abuse kinda goes out the window when so far this season the show has given us practically no reason to side with Dolores or Teddy because they have just become villains. Not even a GOT type villain where you get to understand every point of their perspective, but rather a straight forward villain, making it hard to sympathize with those characters. Compare this to Maeve's story arc, in which we are rooting for her, even if it goes directly against what the human characters want.

Story lines involving Bernard, Maeve, Man in Black, & Delos have been way more intriguing IMO. It's a shame the story line given the most screen time thus far is the most boring. We have seen the whole "robots turn on their creators" story so many times and this one hasn't brought anything new to the table. It's a shame, but on the bright side everything else is pretty good so far.
This post was edited on 5/6/18 at 9:50 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51485 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:57 pm to
No one wants to pull for a Madame Defarge
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 9:59 pm to
I hope we get to see some more of the other worlds and how they are going to tie into all of this. I enjoyed the intro scene in the Colonial Indian world.

Dolores seems very one dimensional (even for a robot) at this point.

The flashback scenes this episode were great. I’m already calling that William’s brother-in-law is dead in the present. I wonder if it was park related or just due to him being a junkie a-hole.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
59330 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:00 pm to
Yeah, I’m not liking Dolores either, now. I think Teddy is obviously about to turn on her. The only ones I’m really rooting for are Bernard, Maeve, and Lawrence.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22211 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:01 pm to
Her over the top character is because I think she was programmed like that. I don't think she is really free. She was given freedoms but she is Wyatt. none are really free. Hector said Isabella was just words and he knew it wasn't real. Maeve is determined to get this girl even though she knows it's not really her daughter but a host that was programmed to be but she can't get her mother programming out.

Similar to Bernard. He was programmed to be of service but was given free reign and let the AI take over and be "free." He will forever be held back because if his programming.
This post was edited on 5/6/18 at 10:04 pm
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16321 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:10 pm to
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Her over the top character is because I think she was programmed like that. I don't think she is really free. She was given freedoms but she is Wyatt


She could be free in her decision making but still have the personalities of Wyatt/Dolores
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22211 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:13 pm to
Exactly what I'm saying. She is programmed to be Wyatt but free to do what she wants. However, I think she programmed to do an actual thing and the "in betweens" are left to her. Her narrative was to take control of the park.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99357 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:13 pm to
Did anyone else think it seemed like Bernard transferred the data from Dolores’ dad to himself, thus his twitching hand and odd future behavior?

Spy girl is searching for the wrong host.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22211 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:15 pm to
I absolutely think he transferred at least some of it to himself.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16321 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:16 pm to
We still only have 2 timelines running right now, correct? The one right after the rebellion starts and the one a few weeks in?
Posted by jef443
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2006
226 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:17 pm to
I’m interested to see where they go with the woman at the beginning. At first I thought it was a flashback showing a younger Theresa. Her smoking motions don’t seem to just be a coincidence.
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:18 pm to
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Based on what?


The sequel to westworld.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16321 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:18 pm to
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At first I thought it was a flashback showing a younger Theresa. Her smoking motions don’t seem to just be a coincidence.


Maybe a host copy of Theresa?
Posted by jef443
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2006
226 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:20 pm to
That’s what I’m thinking. They are testing host copies of people or something along those lines. She was adamant on shooting him but nothing proved she was real
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16321 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:23 pm to
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The sequel to westworld.


That has literally nothing to do with this show and is far from "established"
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66468 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:29 pm to
cool thing I just caught at the beginning. the indian sitar-type music in the background is Seven Nation Army. Very subtle, but no doubt about it
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
6605 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:30 pm to
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That has literally nothing to do with this show and is far from "established"


I don't see why they wouldn't, especially with the knowledge that Delos wants DNA from guests and Futureworld's plot was about cloning park guests. If they don't have a Futureworld park, they are going in the direction of borrowing a lot from the theme of that movie.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85160 posts
Posted on 5/6/18 at 10:31 pm to
My wife, who constantly needs things explained, thought she was a young Theresa. Good catch.
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