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Chris Reid is having a nice season

Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:23 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:23 pm
Was told that he was a shitty fielder: 0 errors so far playing 2 positions

was told he was too slow to score runs: 8 runs so far in 10 starts, including 4 this past weekend in 2 starts.

has been on base 24 times in 10 starts. he has an OBP of .522 That is an incredible number. Being on base puts pressure on the other pitcher, and of course you can't score runs if you cant get on base.


Chris Reid

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65082 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Was told that he was a shitty fielder: 0 errors so far playing 2 positions

He's not a bad fielder, he just has very limited range. That wouldn't show up in a box score.
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was told he was too slow to score runs: 8 runs so far in 10 starts, including 4 this past weekend in 2 starts.

no one said he was too slow to score runs, but he is slow. I'm sure Chris Reid would say the same thing.
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has been on base 24 times in 10 starts. he has an OBP of .522 That is an incredible number. Being on base puts pressure on the other pitcher, and of course you can't score runs if you cant get on base.

he's always had a great OBP and no one has ever said any different.

The issue with Reid is he has a very low ceiling. Slaughter has a very high ceiling so of course Mainieri wanted Slauighter to figure it out. He gave Slaughter the chance but he wasn't getting it done, so Reid is a fantastic safe option to have to bring in.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278683 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:30 pm to
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He's not a bad fielder, he just has very limited range. That wouldn't show up in a box score.



Was told he was a terrible fielder. Errors were cited. He has zero errors so far.


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no one said he was too slow to score runs,



sure, someone did.


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he's always had a great OBP and no one has ever said any different.




his OBP has been devalued over and over again by people who do not understand its importance.




Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:30 pm to
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was told he was too slow to score runs


All that time spent running with you attached to his dick must have made him faster.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278683 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:33 pm to
You don't have to insult me because you attached yourself to a shite argument. Was surprised to see that tbh. Do better
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65082 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:35 pm to
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Was told he was a terrible fielder.


link? But he did have the lowest fielding % on the team the last year he started by a significant margin.
He had a .909 fielding %. The next worst among starters was Kramer at .948. Sample sizes are kind of relevant. Reid has only had 19 fielding opportunities so far this year
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sure, someone did.

link? And do you want to know who the all-tome season record holder is for runs? Nathan Dunn. he was one of the slowest players on the team in 1996. Scoring runs doesn't determine if you are fast or slow. Eddy Furniss is 3rd all-time for a single season for christ's sake and 2nd for his career
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his OBP has been devalued over and over again by people who do not understand its importance.

no one devalues him being able to get on base. What people have said is that Slaughter has a lot more potential and if he can play up to his potential, Reid's OBP isn't as valuable as what Slaughter is capable of providing. No one has ever said OBP doesn't matter. But it is also not the end all be all either.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4378 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:35 pm to
I’ve always lobbied for Reid to start at 3b, but OP is fighting with voices in his head. Reid has always been a fan favorite and everyone knows he’s the steady hand over there while slaughter is developing.

I’m happy for Reid, but also pulling for slaughter. Having a lot of good options is never a bad thing
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:37 pm to
Hunt Palmer had a great statistic comparing Reid’s freshman season and Slaughter’s freshman season. Reid had more extra basehits than Slaughter did.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70537 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:37 pm to
No matter what Chris Reid is doing now (which I'm happy for, btw), I still believe that Slaughter has more potential.

Nothing about saying Chris Reid is a singles hitter with limited foot speed has been disproven.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70537 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:38 pm to
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Reid had more extra basehits than Slaughter did.


How many balls has Reid put over the fence?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65082 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:41 pm to
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How many balls has Reid put over the fence?

1 in 223 career ABs
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70537 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:41 pm to
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1 in 223 career ABs


Incorrect.
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3019 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:42 pm to
Scoring runs is only relevant to speed whenever you talk about scoring from second base. A very low percentage of times scoring from second result in plays at the plate
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278683 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:42 pm to
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Chris is the same player he was as a freshman


has been proven false

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Not a starter we can rely on


False

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0.909 is horrible even at 3B



He's your fielding qupte

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Everyone's single, solitary argument for Reid is his average/obp from 2 years ago. He's not faster. He's bad at fielding. He only hits singles (when he does hit) and his average his freshman year was from lots of garbage-time hits.



here's someone attempting to devalue a career .400 OBP

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t's hard to score lots of runs when all you do is hit singles and you're slow.


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So here's what you get with Reid AT HIS BEST: Someone who doesn't score runs or knock in runs


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but he's too slow to get around to score without two hits or a HR or a walk + xtra base hit.



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He doesn’t score runs. He doesn’t produce runs - RBIs. He doesn’t field well.



Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27889 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:42 pm to
Wasn’t his one HR a ball that got stuck under the bullpen bench and he kept running while the fielder thought it was dead?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70537 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:43 pm to
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Wasn’t his one HR a ball that got stuck under the bullpen bench and he kept running while the fielder thought it was dead?


Yep.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278683 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:46 pm to
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No matter what Chris Reid is doing now (which I'm happy for, btw), I still believe that Slaughter has more potential.




What does Slaughter bring to the team when he is in the lineup, in your opinion?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65082 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:47 pm to
Where do any of those quotes even mention OBP being devalued? Can Reid score from 2nd on a single? Can Reid score from third on a shallow pop fly into the outfield? can Reid stretch a single into a double? Probably not on any of those. Are you trying to say Reid isn't slow? Or is there another reason why he hasn't attempted a stolen base in his entire career? Even the Jordan brothers have managed to do that.

As to his fielding...he has had 19 fielding opportunities this season. Do you think that's a big enough sample size to say his .909 fielding percentage 2 years ago is behind him?
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65082 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:48 pm to
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What does Slaughter bring to the team when he is in the lineup, in your opinion?



potential wise? the most raw power on the team by a lot
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278683 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:50 pm to
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potential wise? the most raw power on the team by a lot




Slaughter has a career .350 slugging percentage in 200 ABs. That is well below average
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