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re: Chris Reid is having a nice season
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:50 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:50 pm to lsufball19
quote:I agree with the ceiling stuff, but Reid has proven he is more than just a safe option. He is a very good player with below avg speed/range. But you cant sit him with his ability to get on base from this point forward. Does slaughter have more power? Yes, but thats the only metric of his game right now I have above Reid as far as hitting goes.
The issue with Reid is he has a very low ceiling. Slaughter has a very high ceiling so of course Mainieri wanted Slauighter to figure it out. He gave Slaughter the chance but he wasn't getting it done, so Reid is a fantastic safe option to have to bring in.
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:51 pm to ProjectP2294
More frequent singles and doubles are better than infrequent solo home runs. I feel like waiting for Slaughter to become a good hitter is like waiting on Russell Shepard to throw a pass.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:51 pm to lsufball19
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As to his fielding...he has had 19 fielding opportunities this season. Do you think that's a big enough sample size to say his .909 fielding percentage 2 years ago is behind him?
a sample size of 4 fielding opportunities last year was used to disparage his ability to play defense. So you tell me.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:53 pm to lsufball19
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Where do any of those quotes even mention OBP being devalued? Can Reid score from 2nd on a single? Can Reid score from third on a shallow pop fly into the outfield? can Reid stretch a single into a double? Probably not on any of those. Are you trying to say Reid isn't slow? Or is there another reason why he hasn't attempted a stolen base in his entire career? Even the Jordan brothers have managed to do that.
So you are saying the author of this is not devaluing his OBP skill by saying that once he gets on base, he is too slow to do anything?
I can't believe someone actually wants to double down on this
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:53 pm to Lester Earl
Reid could’ve been given an error the other night, he was just too slow to get in position
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:54 pm to Lester Earl
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Slaughter has a career .350 slugging percentage in 200 ABs. That is well below average
What does that have to do with potential. No one has tried to say that Slaughter has played up to his potential. But what he is capable of doing is what he could bring to the team and why Mainieri wants him to play. Slaughter can mash the ball unlike anyone on the team. If you have any sense, you should want Slaughter to figure it out and not be rooting for him to struggle so Reid can play. Reid is an awesome backup to have, but he has very little upside as a player.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:55 pm to Lester Earl
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What does Slaughter bring to the team when he is in the lineup, in your opinion?
Power.
People will shite on his defense because he dropped a popup, but in the limited stats we have to work with (fielding pct) he's fielding at a higher rate at 3rd than Smith did last year. And Smith was the high water mark for defensive third basemen recently.
He's probably in the top 6 or 7 guys on the team in speed. His speed seems to be a little more like Deichmann's in that it's straight line vs functional baseball speed, though. (Compared to Watson who glides when he runs the bases)
And as I've said before, I don't expect him to be the 3rd baseman next year. I think that will be someone like Drew Bianco/Hal Hughes/Josh Smith. I expect him to move to the outfield.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:56 pm to Lester Earl
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So you are saying the author of this is not devaluing his OBP skill by saying that once he gets on base, he is too slow to do anything?
Reid is too slow to be aggressive on the base paths. That is a fact. That is very important with the style of baseball we have to play without any real power threats in the lineup. He can't steal bases. He cannot stretch plays for extra bases. He just can't. Reid can score when he's on third base or from second on an extra base hit. Sure it's valuable that he's there, but he is not a valuable as a base runner at all.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:59 pm to lsufball19
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What does that have to do with potential. No one has tried to say that Slaughter has played up to his potential.
When, in Slaughter's career have y'all seen this untapped power potential?
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If you have any sense, you should want Slaughter to figure it out and not be rooting for him to struggle so Reid can play
Im not rooting against anyone. Just presenting facts based on actual production.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:59 pm to Lester Earl
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a sample size of 4 fielding opportunities last year was used to disparage his ability to play defense. So you tell me.
...and his sample size of 110 opportunities the last time he had significant playing time, which was, by far, the worst of the team. Making 2 errors in 6 opportunities last year was just icing on the cake.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:00 pm to ProjectP2294
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Power.
project, again, the guy has a .350 career slg. He has 11 career XBH in 200 ABs.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:01 pm to Lester Earl
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Just presenting facts based on actual production.
Do you think a sample size of 32 at bats and 19 fielding opportunities is a reliable statistic?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:01 pm to lsufball19
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...and his sample size of 110 opportunities the last time he had significant playing time, which was, by far, the worst of the team. Making 2 errors in 6 opportunities last year was just icing on the cake.
playing a new position coming from HS. No one argued he was good then. The argument is that defense can improve over 2 years. It's stupid to say that is couldn't, and that is what went on.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:02 pm to Lester Earl
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Lester Earl
This thread from a guy who shits on Jarvis Landry any time he hears or reads Jarvis, Landry, Juice or receiver....
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:02 pm to lsufball19
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potential wise? the most raw power on the team by a lot
I like Slaughter's potential, especially his power, but I would have guessed Watson had the most raw power. Slaughter's bomb on Saturday was
though.Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:03 pm to lsufball19
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Do you think a sample size of 32 at bats and 19 fielding opportunities is a reliable statistic?
His career numbers say he is elite at getting on base. So yea, the 32 AB sample size is plenty enough because it backs up his career numbers.
19 fielding opportunities isn't a ton but a "terrible fielder" surely would have made an error or 2.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:03 pm to Lester Earl
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When, in Slaughter's career have y'all seen this untapped power potential?
exit velocities that are tracked. Slaughter's are much higher than anyone else on the team. Maybe wait until you see Reid never playing baseball again after college and you can ask why MLB teams drafted Slaughter and not Reid.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:05 pm to ProjectP2294
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People will shite on his defense because he dropped a popup, but in the limited stats we have to work with (fielding pct) he's fielding at a higher rate at 3rd than Smith did last year. And Smith was the high water mark for defensive third basemen recently.
I'm always hesitant to make hasty comparisons such as these on something with as many shortcomings as fielding percentage and errors.
For instance, keeping a hot shot on the infield ruled a hit that prevents a run from scoring doesn't show up on either of those metrics.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:07 pm to Lester Earl
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project, again, the guy has a .350 career slg. He has 11 career XBH in 200 ABs.
And has flashed huge power. And at the beginning of this year he was hitting rockets at people. Then he got some dribblers that fell in for hits.
He's pretty much matching Chad Spanberger's career so far. Including a dip in the sophomore year.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:08 pm to ProjectP2294
Slaughter has gotten enough chances. He didn't take advantage. Chris Reid is.
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