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re: Chris Reid is having a nice season

Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:08 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:08 pm to
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exit velocities that are tracked.



not going to lie, i was expecting something a little more than exit velocity. Is this really what you are going to hang your hat on?


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Maybe wait until you see Reid never playing baseball again after college and you can ask why MLB teams drafted Slaughter and not Reid.



Yea, cause im really saying Chris Reid is a pro prospect
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:08 pm to
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playing a new position coming from HS


I mean, Josh Smith did the same thing and field 50 points higher.
Posted by djrunner
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:09 pm to
Knowledge test Lester.
What are the 5 tools spoken about in reference to a baseball player?
Once stated, explain who out of the two is more gifted in each.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64421 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:10 pm to
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For instance, keeping a hot shot on the infield ruled a hit that prevents a run from scoring doesn't show up on either of those metrics.

true, and neither does being able to get to balls. If Reid isn't quick enough to get to a ball other fielders could, he doesn't get docked with an error, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a deficiency as a fielder.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64421 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:11 pm to
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Yea, cause im really saying Chris Reid is a pro prospect

well, you keep discounting the power tools Slaughter has because of his SLG% compared to Reid, but when MLB teams are scouting Slaughter they are going to give him + power. Why is that?

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not going to lie, i was expecting something a little more than exit velocity. Is this really what you are going to hang your hat on?

Why not. You asked why I think Slaughter has + power potential. That is why. he is capable of hitting the ball harder than anyone on the team. Exit velocities show how hard a player hits the baseball
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 2:13 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:11 pm to
Reid has done really well so far, the biggest problem being a singles hitter is you are very dependent on speed a lot of times and he just doesnt have any. I would expect his average to drop by a lot over SEC play, but continue to get on base because somehow the dude just sees a ton of balls towards the bottom of the lineup. Maybe too because he is no threat to steal or score from 1st most of time on a double by someone else. Also struggle to score from 2nd on a single due to speed sometimes.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:12 pm to
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I mean, Josh Smith did the same thing and field 50 points higher.





and i can post about many infielders we've had that have gotten better from Fresh to JR years. I dont understand why y'all are still trying to double down on these shitty points
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:12 pm to
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not going to lie, i was expecting something a little more than exit velocity. Is this really what you are going to hang your hat on?


So we're taking the position that how hard someone hits the ball isn't relevant to their power? I'm not sure I follow the logic on that one.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
69994 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:13 pm to
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/thread


I know you feel like this is a cool mic drop moment and all, but this thread is still going on.

Just like the season is still going on.

And just like Slaughter got more chances late last season, we haven't seen the last of him this season.

I hope Reid continues to get on base. And when Slaughter comes into the game, I hope he hits it 400ft like he's already done a couple times this year. Especially if Slaughter can prove he can repeat what he did on Saturday, coming in cold off the bench. Then he will do like Reid did earlier this year and earn back the playing time.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
69994 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:14 pm to
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and i can post about many infielders we've had that have gotten better from Fresh to JR years. I dont understand why y'all are still trying to double down on these shitty points


I'm not doubling down on shite. I haven't mentioned Reid's fielding at all except in what you just quoted.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:14 pm to
We'll likely need both. Just like we needed Hanover and Helenihi and countless others that platooned or otherwise picked each other up throughout the years.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 2:15 pm
Posted by AlbertPoolHoles
Member since Jun 2015
176 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:15 pm to
Yet he’s still the worst player on the team and when smith gets back he’ll move to the line, ultimately getting moved because of a freshmen(Hughes).
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25056 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:16 pm to
Everything else held constant, I would be surprised if Hughes isn't the one who goes to the bench.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
69994 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:16 pm to
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I'm always hesitant to make hasty comparisons such as these on something with as many shortcomings as fielding percentage and errors.


I agree the stat is extremely limited. But we aren't anywhere near having something more that Fld Pct + Eye Ball to judge college defenders.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278083 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:17 pm to
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So we're taking the position that how hard someone hits the ball isn't relevant to their power? I'm not sure I follow the logic on that one.




sure it does but you've got a guy that is a career .350 slg hitter and you're telling me he has huge power potential based on the exit velocities that LSU shares with us very sporadically.


Know who else was at the top in the offseason? Daniel Cabrera. While i love his promise, he hasn't exactly translated that to the field. But i know Carbrera will be good, because he has great pitch recognition. Slaughter doesn't, so it's a little hard to buy into.


Know who else has a ton of hard hit balls? Brandt Broussard. He has 4 extra basehits on the year. Does that mean he has huge power potential too? Or that he has a different approach with a different swing plane?

So the notion that it is automatically transferable is silly.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:17 pm to
Reid does what he does, well. He’s not a plus infielder but he’s doing fine so far. He doesn’t hit for power, I think I heard every hit he has this season has been a single. But he gets on base. He isn’t overly fast, he knows that, we know that, everyone knows that.

He’s a solid player who is very useful to have when you need a guy to plug in.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278083 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:20 pm to
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well, you keep discounting the power tools Slaughter has because of his SLG% compared to Reid, but when MLB teams are scouting Slaughter they are going to give him + power. Why is that?



because tools are useless unless you use them. He can be the strongest player on the team but if he doesn't hit it doesn't matter



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Why not. You asked why I think Slaughter has + power potential. That is why. he is capable of hitting the ball harder than anyone on the team. Exit velocities show how hard a player hits the baseball




again, because its useless if it doesn't translate. That's like saying a pitcher throws 99 in the bullpen but only his 89 when he come's on the field. So fricking what. Show me something
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25056 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:20 pm to
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I agree the stat is extremely limited. But we aren't anywhere near having something more that Fld Pct + Eye Ball to judge college defenders.


I don't disagree at all. Just noting as you have that arguing over it doesn't do a whole lot. The numbers generated by these stats are next to useless. It is why they have fallen into disfavor.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18925 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:20 pm to
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No matter what Chris Reid is doing now (which I'm happy for, btw), I still believe that Slaughter has more potential.


Slaughter by far has more potential and that's the problem right now. Slaughters not coming close to his potential, Reid is in ways exceeding his potential. Slaughters OBP% is 0.317 and Reid's is 0.522. Reid is working counts, he's putting the ball in play, he's having less "bad" at bats than Slaughter.

Slaughter will get many more chances this year, if it's meant to be he'll step up.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 2:21 pm
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21302 posts
Posted on 3/19/18 at 2:21 pm to
I've been seeing him out at Tigerland after games so he rakes and he parties. A true Tiger.
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