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So a good guy with a gun didn't save them
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:26 am
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:26 am
John Harwood
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@JohnJHarwood
so it turns out a good guy with a gun was there, with sheriff’s dept training no teacher will ever have, and he didn’t stop the bad guy with a gun
5:34 PM - Feb 22, 2018
Oh man what a boom!
Sean Davis
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@seanmdav
Civilians could never stop a shooter, so only cops should have guns.
The cop failed, and also only cops should have guns.
Gotta love “heads I win, tails you lose” logic from gun controllers.
El Sooopèrr! ? c137
@SooperMexican
Also we're supposed to let the police protect us instead of arming ourselves, right? LINK …
8:47 PM - Feb 22, 2018
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@JohnJHarwood
so it turns out a good guy with a gun was there, with sheriff’s dept training no teacher will ever have, and he didn’t stop the bad guy with a gun
5:34 PM - Feb 22, 2018
Oh man what a boom!
Sean Davis
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@seanmdav
Civilians could never stop a shooter, so only cops should have guns.
The cop failed, and also only cops should have guns.
Gotta love “heads I win, tails you lose” logic from gun controllers.
El Sooopèrr! ? c137
@SooperMexican
Also we're supposed to let the police protect us instead of arming ourselves, right? LINK …
8:47 PM - Feb 22, 2018
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:27 am to Jbird
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Civilians could never stop a shooter, so only cops should have guns.
Tell that to the thousands of people who protect their homes from intruders....and live to tell about it.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:28 am to Jbird
That is why the 2nd amendment is so important. We simply can not depend on the state to protect. The state had an armed man waiting at the scene of a mass murder and he did nothing. The only way to ensure you are safe is to protect yourself and not rely on anyone else.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:28 am to Jbird
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So a pussy with a gun didn't save them
FIFY...
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:29 am to Jbird
Shitty cop was safe outside and wanted to stay that way.
Anyone in that building uses a weapon if they have it. Teachers were in that building
Anyone in that building uses a weapon if they have it. Teachers were in that building
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 9:30 am
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:29 am to Jbird
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This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:30 am to Jbird
The first tweeter's argument is asinine. If that coach had had a gun instead of just his body to protect those students, he'd be alive and the shooter would be dead today.
There were some brave, unarmed people in that school last week who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that their pupils/fellow students could live.
There were some brave, unarmed people in that school last week who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that their pupils/fellow students could live.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 9:31 am
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:30 am to Jbird
The story would have been different if the football coach was armed.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:31 am to Jbird
...but there wasn't a good guy with a gun there.
This post was edited on 2/23/18 at 9:32 am
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:33 am to Jbird
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so it turns out a good guy with a gun was there, with sheriff’s dept training no teacher will ever have, and he didn’t stop the bad guy with a gun
So dumb. You can't measure the amount of attacks that didn't occur but go ahead and keep this attitude up. Long $AOBC into earnings
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:34 am to Jbird
Funnny that the same people who say police are slaughtering civilians in the street, are the the same ones who want only cops to have guns. How do you do gymnastics like that?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:35 am to Jbird
He really didn't think that through.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:35 am to Jbird
To bad the brave coach wasn’t armed.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:45 am to Jbird
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so it turns out a good guy with a gun was there, with sheriff’s dept training no teacher will ever have, and he didn’t stop the bad guy with a gun
No, some guy with a gun was there. This was not a good guy with a gun.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:47 am to Jbird
I think it's a valid point. Who knows what was going through the security officer's head, but it's the age old fight or flight dilemma. Lots of people will fight, many with flight. He appears to have chosen flight for unknown reasons. And nobody really knows how they would react the first time they face a situation like that. I'd like to say I'd go in and try to save people, but honestly have idea how I'd react. But it is especially disturbing when someone that is actually trained in that area to fail so badly.
And that highlights one of the problems with the idea of arming teachers.
And that highlights one of the problems with the idea of arming teachers.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 9:49 am to Jbird
If a guy breaks into your house at night and he has a gun, would you rather be armed or disarmed?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:02 am to Jbird
Serious question. Have the cops ever rushed into a mass shooting situation within the first, say, 2 minutes of gunfire?
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:02 am to Jbird
If I'm in a life or death situation.. I would prefer to live or die based on my own decisions and ability to defend myself. Opposed to relying on a cop to save me.
Some cops won't be motivated to run towards danger if their own lives aren't at risk. My luck, I'd get one of the duds, that would sit outside and do nothing as I get murdered.
Some cops won't be motivated to run towards danger if their own lives aren't at risk. My luck, I'd get one of the duds, that would sit outside and do nothing as I get murdered.
Posted on 2/23/18 at 10:12 am to Jbird
Shooting a gun in a crisis situation is really difficult to do well. I recall an incident in the early 2000's when a murderer was shot and killed by two cops at 34th and 5th Avenue right in front of the Empire State building.
The guy was armed and dangerous and had just shot and killed someone so if ever there was a justified shooting, that was it.
But - - the cops also shot and wounded ten innocent bystanders. (Most of the wounds were caused by ricochets and none of the bystanders died or suffered serious permanent injuries.)
Shooting under stress is tough:
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The guy was armed and dangerous and had just shot and killed someone so if ever there was a justified shooting, that was it.
But - - the cops also shot and wounded ten innocent bystanders. (Most of the wounds were caused by ricochets and none of the bystanders died or suffered serious permanent injuries.)
Shooting under stress is tough:
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In 2005, NYPD officers intentionally fired their guns at someone 472 times, hitting their mark 82 times. In 2006, New York police fired under the same circumstances 364 times, hitting their target 103 times. That same year, Los Angeles police fired 67 times, recording 27 hits.
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