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Why Won't Trump Release the FISA Warrant Application?

Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:55 pm
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14289 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:55 pm
Think about that.

Trumpt and his administration have repeatedly accused the FBI and/or the Obama DOJ of improperly using the "salacious" Steele dossier in order to get the FISA warrant issued and to conduct illegal surveillance on the Trump campaign.

But, even though Trump, as president, can release the warrant application and prove that the FBI and/or OJ acted improperly to have the FISA warrant issued, he has chosen not to. This is spite of the fact that even conservative pundits are calling for Trump to release the FISA information, including staunchly conservative Andrew CMcCarthy, of the National Review.

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@AndrewCMcCarthy
Will he or won’t he?

Will President Trump order the disclosure of any warrant applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (the FISA Court) in which the Justice Department and FBI presented any information derived from the Steele dossier?

We don’t need to imperil national security. There is no need to disclose the entirety of any application. There is no need to expose intelligence sources or methods of gathering information — they can be redacted. We don’t even need to see any actual application; a declassified summary of the relevant information will do. We just need to know if what administration supporters are saying is true: In seeking surveillance authority on the rationale that Trump associates were acting as agents of a foreign power, did the Justice Department and the FBI present the FISA court with the Steele dossier as if it were a product of U.S. intelligence reporting — rather than what it really was, a political opposition-research product commissioned by the Clinton campaign?.

Could the reason Trump won't release the FISA warrant information be that there was nothing improper about the warrant or how it was issued, and Trump wants to continue to use the warrant accusations to discredit the FBI and DOJ as part of his escalating campaign to justifying the firing of Mueller or Rosenstein.

There's no other logical reason Trump won't release it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119556 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

There's no other logical reason Trump won't release it.


Ummm...he would be blasted by your side for doing so assuming that he really can release the FISA warrant as you assume.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27058 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:59 pm to
Did the public even know what this was a year ago?

Isn’t everything about FISA top secret? Has a FISA warrant ever been released?

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75108 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 3:59 pm to
Hes waiting for the last moment for maximum rustle
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9421 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:02 pm to
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There's no other logical reason Trump won't release it.

Maybe its because he doesn't want to frick around with evidence that's part of an ongoing investigation?

Maybe he has a department that is responsible for investigations and letting them handle it?

Maybe the time hasn't presented itself yet (waiting for right moment)?

Maybe he has a few million other things on his plate?

Maybe someone in his cabinet recommended he not release it for undisclosed reasons?

Why hasn't he used presidential power to obtain all the sealed Obama documents that were carted off under the guises of "Obama's Presidential LIbrary"?

Could be anything.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:08 pm to
We'll have something really, really great for you coming really soon
Posted by choke
Member since Dec 2015
791 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:12 pm to
I think he'd rather play it like a slow drip as it is now. Death by a 1000 cuts as they say.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:13 pm to
He is pretty much "winning" this as it is.


His "ratings" aren't going to improve based upon this release. Hell, he keeps getting CNN, et al, to have to back track on story after story.


He'd be a fool to remove this issue at this point.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

Why Won't Trump Release the FISA Warrant Application?


because that "would be" obstruction of justice unless and untill the SC is dissolved, for now, only mueller is the one who decides to release that or not

nice try though
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19168 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:23 pm to
Why would he release the ace up his sleeve? He knows he has it, but as your post indicates, his enemies don’t know if he’s bluffing or not.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 4:36 pm to
He is thinking 3 steps ahead of you
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124705 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Why Won't Trump Release the FISA Warrant Application?
Why won't Trump fire Mueller? Why won't Trump order his DOJ to investigate the FBI's role in exonerating Hillary's email server?

The answer is "patience is a virtue" tex. All in good time. If disclosure and/or exposure of anti-Trump corruption is inevitable, far better to allow divulgence in the normal course rather than forcing it.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
35175 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:21 pm to
Trump knows that the Intel Community's ability to monitor terrorism is an essential National Security issue. He must have that power. And if Congress - just the hard core Right - finds out, they will be forced to throw and wrench in the whole Renewal of said Law. It's coming up to vote shortly; will be interesting to see how it works out.

That said, I think it's Sessions that is sitting on that hot potato; His time is limited, just like Meuller. Pressure building.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5283 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 5:39 pm to
He would be accused of trying interfere in an investigation.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/18/17 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

Why Won't Trump Release the FISA Warrant Application?

Think about that.


My god they are getting desperate. And it is amusing arse hell to watch.



MAGA
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Could the reason Trump won't release the FISA warrant information be that there was nothing improper about the warrant or how it was issued, and Trump wants to continue to use the warrant accusations to discredit the FBI and DOJ as part of his escalating campaign to justifying the firing of Mueller or Rosenstein.

There's no other logical reason Trump won't release it.


Other than that it would be a bad practice to start?

Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53967 posts
Posted on 12/19/17 at 7:33 pm to
They probably haven’t manufactured it yet, that is probably what the Mueller team is doing. The government has to get all their lies and evidence together before they release things.
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Could the reason Trump won't release the FISA warrant information be that there was nothing improper about the warrant or how it was issued, and Trump wants to continue to use the warrant accusations to discredit the FBI and DOJ as part of his escalating campaign to justifying the firing of Mueller or Rosenstein.

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The only reason that makes sense is that there was nothing improper about the FISA warrant.

WOW
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6907 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

There's no other logical reason Trump won't release it.




Probably should have looked at the thread start date. These bumped threads are killing me.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22059 posts
Posted on 12/12/19 at 2:59 pm to
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But, even though Trump, as president, can release the warrant application and prove that the FBI and/or OJ acted improperly to have the FISA warrant issued, he has chosen not to.
The left still will spin it to attempt to make Trump look wrong. He released the entire transcript of the call with the Ukrainian president almost immediately after Democrats started accusing him of quid pro quo and bribery. That hasn't stopped them from pushing forward with the impeachment nonsense.
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