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I have more confidence in O

Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:56 pm
Posted by LSUTigerBait07
SD, Chicago, or New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
2191 posts
Posted on 11/6/17 at 11:56 pm
Than when we started the season, growing pains happen. What they have done with our undermanned lines is nothing short of remarkable. Maybe he can turn it around. He embodies Louisiana, it would be nice if Cajun rainman could actually do the job... I'm starting to believe he can
This post was edited on 11/7/17 at 12:01 am
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13148 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:13 am to
I will feel a bit better about O only if our team is ready to play in each of these last three regular season games.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:13 am to
A lot of teams
This year struggled early and folded. I think he has done a heck of a job with the turn around. He needs to finish strong and win the bowl. 10'wins goin into next season would be great in feb. He will be able to have something tangible to point to when selling recruits that Lsu is still the number one contender to unseat Bama in the west.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16870 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:41 am to
Agree
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
17016 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:51 am to
The team started playing better after Alleva told O to stay the frick out of the way and let the coordinators coach.
Posted by 756
Member since Sep 2004
14887 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 5:49 am to
I have more confidence in Canada and Aranda

I have respect for O for stepping aside to let the coordinators do their job

I have little respect for JA

I still am unclear about exactly what our HC is contributing beyond recruiting.

Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24362 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 6:00 am to
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6843 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 6:40 am to
Recruiting needs to improve before I feel fully confident in O. Also how he replaces the eventual departure of one of his coordinators. Aranda is really good but Canada is the one that worries me the most in terms of replacing because his system is so unique.

6-2 in the SEC would be solid, though admittedly the SEC in 2017 is not all that great. Let’s get there first though.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9670 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 6:48 am to
Well said.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 7:10 am to
quote:

He embodies Louisiana


Why do people keep saying shite like this?

No...he embodies ONE TYPE of person from LA. and not even a large portion. Hell...I'm from the River Parishes area myself, born of parents that were both Yats and have lived essentially my entire life south of I-10 in Louisiana. In fact, I've spent more actual years living in LA than he has.

And guess what...we would not be confused for each other, and it's not because I'm not Louisiana enough.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26705 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 7:22 am to
Lol, we didn't start to play better until Alleva set down O and the coordinators. Honestly O hasn't shown his worth. Recruiting should be way higher than what it is right now. The thing he is most known for, looks average right now. There is no guarantee that we finish strong there.

Stop praising this man for the half arse job he's done so far.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14544 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 7:49 am to
My feeling is that over time O's limitations will manifest themselves and eventually catch up to us.
I have felt this way from jump and I still unfortunately, think that is what will take place eventually.

I certainly hope I'm wrong about that.

But for now he has taken what really looked like a Titanic and righted the ship nicely, we've improved on several areas as the year has gone. Credit is deserved for that.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9048 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 7:51 am to
The turn around was impressive, we easily could have gone the way of FSU.

To me, getting the team to buy in after a couple of tough losses got me off his back for a while. I'll probably give him next season to get us to 10+ wins and I would think that with this freshman class that we should be a contender in 2019.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43960 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 7:53 am to
I won't have confidence in Orgeron until we see how he handles turnover on the staff. He's put himself in a position where promoting from within is impossible and landing anything other than one of the 2-3 hottest names at the time will be a disappointment.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10517 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 7:53 am to
quote:

I'm starting to believe he can



It's all about recruiting from here.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54602 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:14 am to
quote:

would be nice if Cajun rainman could actually do the job...
my god.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
59321 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:42 am to
O has done a better job than I thought he was capable of after our early losses. I actually think he’s a good bit smarter than he’s given credit for and certainly smarter than it sounds. The things that really worried/worry me about him are things he can’t change. I am concerned that he hasn’t built up enough equity as a head coach to consistently hire the best coordinators and recruit like we need to. It’s a lot different recruiting for Les Miles, Pet Carrol, Jimmy Johnson, and even Lane Kiffin than it is for yourself. Do the kids, their coaches, and their parents trust Ed enough to send their NFL hopefuls to play under him for 4 years. He simply doesn’t have the skins on the wall.

Similarly, I think Ed is probably pretty well respected in the coaching world as a DL coach and recruiter. Does he have the reputation to convince a hot commodity to choose us over Alabama, Ohio State, Texas, Michigan and other schools who are not going to get outbid and whose coaches have had much more success to point to as a head coach.
Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:53 am to
quote:

He embodies Louisiana,


Who cares? It doesnt matter if he embodies iran, just win football games.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56689 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:34 am to
quote:

when we started the season, growing pains happen. What they have done with our undermanned lines is nothing short of remarkable. Maybe he can turn it around. He embodies Louisiana, it would be nice if Cajun rainman could actually do the job... I'm starting to believe he can




Orgeron has always had a long road to survive here. To be a long term coach he needs to:

* Avoid the terrible season (this almost got him this year, but he survived it)

* Land consistently highly rated recruiting classes (Last year's finish was awesome. This year doesn't look nearly as good on paper. Strangely enough, Orgeron's biggest perceived strength isn't a sure thing.)

* Navigate the high profile coordinator pitfalls (He may be facing this already in the offseason...before he re-established the program. That could be a big problem)

This year looks like it will turn out to not be a disaster. If they win 9+ games, it will/should actually be viewed as a very good coaching job. Having said that, until Orgeron gets the program winning 10-11 games, he's one disaster season away from being fired.
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49856 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 1:49 pm to
And this is the same team that got skull drag by state?
Definitely an improvement since that game. I have a want to see further improvement.
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