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re: Is committing suicide by someone who has suffered tremendous loss excusable?
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:30 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Well you were. I laughed.
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Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:30 pm to toosleaux
Suicide is always "excusable." Thinking of it in terms of "excusable" or "inexcusable" oversimplifies a complex situation.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:30 pm to the paradigm
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I can fully understand a parent who commits suicide following the death of a child. I don’t think I could go on living if something were to happen to my son.
I try not to think about it.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:31 pm to LSUballs
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Well you were. I laughed.
Well you're an a-hole. Have a good one
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:31 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Good talk
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:34 pm to toosleaux
We have no real right to pass judgement on how a brother or sister should have handled the stress and pain that comes into so may lives. I could easily say suicide was justified, or a selfish act. What wisdom do I have to base such a judgement on?
None.
Sorry for their pain.
None.
Sorry for their pain.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 8:34 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:irrational thinking doesn't make detract from its selfish
Because you have no idea the mental state that drives someone to think that the world would be better off without them.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:04 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I don't get why people immediately think it's selfish.
At the same time, I don't get people who instantly condemn that line of thinking.
If someone chooses to end their life, at least they had that choice and don't have to live with it. The friends and family they left behind do. Those friends and families have the rest of their lives grieving the loss and wondering if they could have influenced that choice differently.
Each tragic situation has different variables that don't draw a clear line on wrong or right.
At the same time, I don't get people who instantly condemn that line of thinking.
If someone chooses to end their life, at least they had that choice and don't have to live with it. The friends and family they left behind do. Those friends and families have the rest of their lives grieving the loss and wondering if they could have influenced that choice differently.
Each tragic situation has different variables that don't draw a clear line on wrong or right.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:12 pm to toosleaux
Absolutely
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:30 pm to heatom2
Guess what. It is selfish.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:51 pm to toosleaux
It depends on each situation....do you have children or family members still counting on you?
Is there no one else in your life and you've lost all that you love?
Know this though, it's the Checkmate move...there is no reset in your decision. You better be damn sure. I've contemplated it a few times this past year. I've lost a LOT! But I have a couple of sisters who still count on me...I'm not going to let them down.
Is there no one else in your life and you've lost all that you love?
Know this though, it's the Checkmate move...there is no reset in your decision. You better be damn sure. I've contemplated it a few times this past year. I've lost a LOT! But I have a couple of sisters who still count on me...I'm not going to let them down.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 9:53 pm to CajunTiger_225
Nah. Not most of the time.
This post was edited on 11/1/17 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:21 pm to TbirdSpur2010
99% of the time someone who loves that person is left behind. If you didn't care enough about how that decision will affect them, then you are selfish. What is life? Living.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:22 pm to Tuscaloosa
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but that doesn’t mean it’s not selfish
You're looking at it from your point of view. So that would mean that it is a selfish act to you. People who commit suicide are not in the right state of mind to know what they are about to do is selfish. To commit a final act is beyond my comprehension. How dark, cold, and lonely of a place one might be to take such action. I personally think it has t do with mental health, not being able to understand that nothng is permanent except suicide.
No matter what the situation is there is always a way out, always.
I can not express this enough. If you are close with anybody that has hinted at being depressed. Reach out to them. Don't wait for them to reach out to you. Pester them in a way that they know you'll be there for them no matter what. Tell them you care.
Personally, I've lost friendships do to my own depression. And realizing the type of people I was hanging around with were fake and only being there when it was convenient for them. You realize a lot about who people really are when you are at your lowest. But one thing will always stay with me, and that is having one of my buddies call me or text me every week just to shoot the proverbial bullshite. That, among other things is what I needed to get my personal demons layed to rest.
shite luck will find anybody, nobody is immune to it. Don't ever hesitate to do what is right. Reach out.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 10:56 pm to toosleaux
Jesus will send you to hell if you don't suffer till the very end.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:09 pm to toosleaux
I have to think that most people who commit suicide are not in the best state of mind. No one can understand what they are going through. It's easy for people to say "it's selfish", but they have no clue. Some people truly convince themselves their family and loved ones will be better off without them.. It's no one's place to judge the actions of others so.
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:22 pm to toosleaux
I think suicide is considered a human weakness (we have many) however life can be humbling and weakening and devastating. frick y’all for judging
Posted on 11/1/17 at 11:46 pm to toosleaux
well im gonna go way out on a limb here, and say, the person who just committed suicide does give a flying frick what you think about, or if you approve of their decision, one way or the other, since its not up to you. 
Posted on 11/2/17 at 12:00 am to BluegrassBelle
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My Mom had a full on break down when my little brother died. It took a lot of therapy, support, and medication for her to get to a point that she didn't want to kill herself.
Damn...how did you manage?
I don't know if I could go on if anything ever happened to my son
Posted on 11/2/17 at 1:52 am to RLDSC FAN
I don’t think people understand that these things normally happen on the darkest of days. It just takes that one really dark day for someone’s mind to go down a road they can’t find their way back from to the point where saying “screw it, I’m out” is the answer.
Take the Linkin Park lead singer for example. 6 kids. A wife. Raped since 7. Beaten up at school. Always the outcast. Into most all heavy drugs by 16. Yet this guy battled daily to treat people with compassion, make this world a better place, and find that reason to keep moving. You see him talk about his kids, and his input is geniune. But on Chris Cornell’s birthday, after admitting earlier in the past year he was having a tough time, suicidal thoughts, and sociopath envy, he found himself down that dark road one step too far. A guy that battled through so many problems that most of us never experienced managed to fight his demons for dozens of years. All it took was one really bad day and now kids don’t have a father and a wife becomes a widow.
Take the Linkin Park lead singer for example. 6 kids. A wife. Raped since 7. Beaten up at school. Always the outcast. Into most all heavy drugs by 16. Yet this guy battled daily to treat people with compassion, make this world a better place, and find that reason to keep moving. You see him talk about his kids, and his input is geniune. But on Chris Cornell’s birthday, after admitting earlier in the past year he was having a tough time, suicidal thoughts, and sociopath envy, he found himself down that dark road one step too far. A guy that battled through so many problems that most of us never experienced managed to fight his demons for dozens of years. All it took was one really bad day and now kids don’t have a father and a wife becomes a widow.
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