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re: Who beleves Russia did nothing at all?

Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Gordon Hayward
Member since Jun 2016
1040 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:41 am to
I'm not a Trump fan, but I'm well aware that most of our leaders are compromised. We are being counterproductive calling water wet. Let's just get some shite done.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15367 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:42 am to
Which is why the idiot OP cast such a wide net of "nothing at all".
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 11:43 am
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:42 am to
I dont believe they did any more in this election than any in the past.

Ill even say they spent less effort on this election than they did in the last 75 years
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Who beleves Russia did nothing at all? by VOR

I was completely ready to say, "not I" because obviously Russia tries to frick with our elections but

quote:

Who here believes that the entire hacking story
and I feel the need for clarity.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 11:45 am
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62734 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:45 am to
I thought it was the BSA that got caught trying to hack into the Presidential election in Georgia. So who really did it?
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
22715 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:47 am to
It may well be 100% true but there has been zero evidence provided beyond the Crowdstrike assessment. And Assange's assertion that the DNC emails came from an inside source seems far more credible than an unverifiable claim from Ukrainian separatists who have been caught before in baldfaced lies. There may possibly be classified intel tying this conclusively to Russia but none of us have seen it and in the current leakgeist altmosphere that makes it seem an extreme longshot.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 11:51 am
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
34145 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:51 am to
quote:

They did something, but probably put the same effort into this election that they have every election for the last 100 years.


This.
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
12848 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:51 am to
Aside from the "influence" campaign the IC reported on, what evidence--even insignificant do you have to think otherwise?
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8190 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:53 am to
With Putin being former KGB, it's hard to believe they haven't tried something.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
73559 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:54 am to
Heres a Russian bear for you, breaking in.

LINK
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53559 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:54 am to
Present

Even if they did interfere to make Hillary lose, we should be thanking them
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63771 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:54 am to
quote:

quote:
beleves



Mother of God



GIVE ME a break. I'm recovering from a stroke here.
Posted by TigerWise
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Member since Sep 2010
35117 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:55 am to
quote:

Who here believes that the entire hacking


What do you people think they hacked ? Voting machines ?
Posted by AustinTigr
Austin, TX
Member since Dec 2004
2937 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:56 am to
Here's what I believe. Actually, here is what I KNOW: Had HRC won the election, Russia's involvement or non-involvement in our election process would NEVER have been so much as a 1/8 page article on page 10 of the NYT or WAPO.

We would be in month 8 of "this historic President's administration", and the liberal media everywhere would be tugging in front of their TV's at every rhetorical bullshite empty meaningless statement she made while ignoring the Clinton Foundation, her influence and access pedaling, her health issues, and everything else wrong with the woman in lieu of 'This historical presidency'... in other words, they would have given her the Barry treatment, except for being female rather than black. Any and every word of criticism toward her would have been 'evidence of misogyny' just like any and all criticism of Barry was evidence of racism.

Whatever Russia may or may not have done to sway the election, it was a helluva LOT LESS than what the AMERICAN MAIN STREAM MEDIA did to put HRC in office.



So now we have 'meh Russians!' because the MSM's candidate lost.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112807 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Russia tried to influence the election.


I've asked this question 3 times on this board. I've never gotten an answer. To anybody here:

Why did Putin want Trump to beat Hillary? What was his motive? Was he afraid Hillary would invade Russia and make them a US colony?
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61485 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Whatever Russia may or may not have done to sway the election, it was a helluva LOT LESS than what the AMERICAN MAIN STREAM MEDIA did to put HRC in office.
Truth
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68966 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:57 am to
If they did something,

it resulted in better informed voters.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37301 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:57 am to
Unless it's proven they actually somehow manipulated the voting machines literally changing votes I don't care what they did. On that note, I would bet everything I own that they did not do that.

Fake news came from both sides during the campaign. So, why should I be mad if it's proven that the Russians had something to do with that? That would mean they're no better/no worse than the pieces of shite at occupy democrats or any of other blogs, etc. tossing out inaccurate info.

Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7184 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 11:59 am to
"Who here believes that the entire hacking
story is 100% false and that nothing happened?"

Not me. I think the story will ultimately prove to be a "nothing burger" in terms of collusion or changing the votes from those that were cast, but I have no problem believing the Russians were up to something.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67309 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 12:00 pm to
If they did, I've yet to see any proof. I've seen a hell of a lot more evidence of collusion and illegal interference by our own sitting government and political parties than by any foreign actors to date. If there was any such actions by the Russians, I'm sure the evidence will eventually come to light, but until then, I will not subscribe to the theory of Russian interference.
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