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We hear so much about rape culture, why aren't women judged for FZ culture?

Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:54 am
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:54 am
(Eta - for people with bad comprehension)

I'm comparing the lack of shaming fz enablers with the current shaming of guys for "contributing" to a rape culture by objectify women and talking about them sexually. I'm not comparing fz to the act of rape. I'm saying that we should point out this psychological game is damaging. I'm not comparing it to date rape, I'm contrasting it with what we are being told is a cycle of enabling rape culture through thoughts and actions. You can't say men are pigs for objectification of women, and then say nothing of women who play mental games with men.


Was hoping for a sfp thread, instead I got Ryno replies.
-me sad )



Guys know what I'm talking about.
"If only I could find a guy as good as you, but I need you as a friend"?

You know the psychological mindfrick that is the friend zone.
Women want to not be judged, but be sexualized, yet it's okay to screw up the lives of nice guys through harpy level flirting and then a shove off an emotional cliff?

I think everyone gets friend zoned at least once. It sucks.

Yet all I hear about now is rape culture. Shaming drunk sex.

Yet no one wants to shame women for their blantant dishonesty towards guys they say they "love.....Like a brother".


This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:21 pm
Posted by hg
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:55 am to
:sfp:
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:56 am to
quote:

Napoleon


Perpetually in the friend zone with Pectus.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:56 am to
deep down inside all women want is the rough secks (pun intended) so they can smell the nice guys and know they wouldnt be able to give it to them.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:57 am to
quote:

Yet no one wants to shame women for their blantant dishonesty towards guys they say they "love.....Like a brother".



That's when you look into their eyes and say
"Lucky for us I'm from Alabama then."

This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:00 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18989 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:58 am to
ITT: OP exposes himself as an angry virgin
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19495 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:58 am to
I've never been Friend Zoned, cause I always got them drawers.

Don't be a loser
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Member since Aug 2013
15539 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:58 am to
Not every girl wants to sleep with you, chief. The friend zone isn't as prevalent as some would make you think.
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:58 am to
Sorry for your small penis?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:58 am to
Slight difference between rape and friend zone, wouldn't you say?
Posted by Bluefin
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:59 am to
quote:

I think everyone gets friend zoned at least once. It sucks.

I mean, a lot of rapes are probably the result of being put into the friend zone...
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
54057 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:00 pm to
SFP says there are two friend zones. I think the first is where you're kind of shut down immediately and everyone knows their role, so it's on the guy if he proceeds with it after that point. But, the manipulative one where you're kept on a string for emotional and other support she's not getting elsewhere and you seemingly have a chance is the killer one.

ETA for insanity wolf:

This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
9840 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:03 pm to
The trick is to friendzone the friendzoners.

The second she realizes that you've just divided by zero, she's gonna get moist in her nether regions.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:04 pm to
Your neckbeard is showing.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
8952 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

about rape culture, why aren't women judged for FZ culture?


Being friends with someone who wants to have sex with you is not a crime.

Having sex with someone who DOES NOT want to have sex with you is a CRIME.

It's pretty simple...so it's her fault see doesn't want you?
Posted by Evil Little Thing
Member since Jul 2013
11276 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:07 pm to
Truly, this shite is simple. Don't chase women who act lukewarm toward you. This article may be mocked, but it's true: LINK


"The Law of “frick Yes or No” states that when you want to get involved with someone new, in whatever capacity, they must inspire you to say “frick Yes” in order for you to proceed with them.

The Law of “frick Yes or No” also states that when you want to get involved with someone new, in whatever capacity, THEY must respond with a “frick Yes” in order for you to proceed with them.

As you can see, The Law of “frick Yes or No” implies that both parties must be enthusiastic about the prospect of one another’s company. Why? Because attractive, non-needy, high self-worth people don’t have time for people who they are not excited to be with and who are not excited to be with them.

This may sound a bit idealistic to some. But The Law of “frick Yes or No” has many tangible benefits on your dating life:

No longer be strung along by people who aren’t that into you. End all of the headaches. End the wishing and hoping. End the disappointment and anger that inevitably follows. Start practicing self-respect. Become the rejector, not the rejected.

No longer pursue people you are so-so on for ego purposes. We’ve all been there. We were so-so about somebody, but we went along with it because nothing better was around. And we all have a few we’d like to take back. No more."
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
135142 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

yet it's okay to screw up the lives of nice guys through harpy level flirting and then a shove off an emotional cliff?

Anything that gives women power over men is OK. Giving men any power over women is evil. It's a one way street. Come on, man. Catch up.
Posted by PBnJ
in your lunchbox
Member since Aug 2009
2643 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:14 pm to
Alternative thread titles for this post:

"I'm unattractive with no game and I'm here to complain"
"Forever Alone"
"Where's My Participation Trophy?"
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36770 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:19 pm to
We do hear about it
quote:

friend zone has deep-seated roots in rape culture


quote:

The infamous “friend zone” is a desolate place, corroded with bitterness. When a woman makes the choice to not get involved with a man who is trying to initiate a romantic or sexual relationship, the man is said to be plummeting into the depths of the friend zone. Men often vent and joke about the audacity of these women who dismiss their wooing efforts and forsake them to such a dismal place.


quote:

Anybody would be disappointed if their romantic interest didn’t reciprocate their feelings. But when someone jokingly states that they’ve been friend zoned, they unknowingly contribute to rape culture.

Growing up in a capitalistic society, we think in numbers. We think in transactions, in deals, and in worked hours. Guy invested in Girl, she needs to pay up, and sex becomes the transaction that will seal the deal. But sex is not something that is ever “owed” to another, no matter how many minutes you spent dolling yourself up or shaving your pubes.

quote:

It’s important to be aware that the term “friend zone” inherently relies on the concept of male entitlement. When you use it, you let your ego take the front seat and your partner’s mutual interest and consent is thrown in the trunk. The friend zone both resents and blames the other party for not consenting. This disrespects the non-consenter’s physical and emotional boundaries, and contributes to a culture that normalizes this violation. A woman’s chance of being raped in the US is 1 in 5, and approximately 4 out of 5 assaults are committed by someone that the victim knows. In fact, 47% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance. As slam poet Dylan Garity puts it: “we all know the statistics but we don’t know how to accept how easily we become part of the problem.”

This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted by AintBigButItsPretty
Member since Mar 2011
942 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:28 pm to
If every other social institution is getting hammered or banned, why is "girls night" still allowed? It's excluding us men, trannys, and non-binary folk. Don't give me that they are a minority because they are 52% of the population.
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