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Am I right to think that the GOP establishment isn't going to repeal ACA?

Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:24 pm
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4751 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:24 pm
Looking at how it's going it seems to me that the lobbiests have paid off the establishment. Am I right in thinking it will never happen?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:29 pm to
Trump has said multiple times they are going to repeal and replace the ACA

You are wrong to think any different.

Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37384 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:31 pm to
The other option is to let it collapse on its own. Either way, it is going down. If you let it collapse on its own, Obama's legacy is completely shot to shite.

I'm almost convinced we should let them all own it. There is one person in D.C. that had absolutely nothing to do with passing the shite sandwich legislatsion. This person is also the one that is catching the most flak for trying to solve the issue.

If that is not lunacy in its finest form, I don't know what is. Re-elect no one going forward.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 7:32 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53623 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:31 pm to
You are right to think the media will play it that way!
Posted by Boks
Red Lodge, MT
Member since Jul 2013
1132 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:31 pm to
I don't think lobbyists ever wanted it back in 08 or 09. It was shoved down everyone's throat. I'm thinking the weight of taking insurance from ppl without a replacement plan has hit them. Scared to pull the rug on it. Plus, they may think they can use it against Trump in reelection...he said he'd repeal it day one and didn't. Even though it's the fault of Congress, they can try to blame him. I don't think that will work though.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:31 pm to
Trump is the only reason repeal has a chance . GOP just gave lip service to repeal over the years to fire up its base.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10248 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:31 pm to
You are correct being leery of R establishment types, who are largely the same as D establishment types.

This is likely going to get very ugly before any improvement is seen.

Buckle up.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:32 pm to
You are correct...

It will only happen if Trump really gets in there and twists arms

Even then it will be really close
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21081 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:32 pm to
Trump is gonna donkey punch them into submission. They will bend the knee. And trust me. It will be more painful for them than trump.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48700 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:33 pm to
I suspect that the Establishment GOP types don't want to repeal it because they are afraid to do anything controversial that might cost them votes.

That's why they like the Executive Agencies do promulgate regs for anything that might be unpopular with any group.
Posted by Undertow
Member since Sep 2016
7418 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:43 pm to
The dems will block any replacement that doesn't heavily involve the federal government, no matter how much sense it makes.
Posted by PhoenixLSUTiger
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2007
1410 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Looking at how it's going it seems to me that the lobbiests have paid off the establishment. Am I right in thinking it will never happen?




The dog finally caught up with the car and has no idea what to do now. You mean the 52 other times they voted to repeal it they didn't have a plan? Oooooooh that's right. It was all for show. Now there is no where to hide and the dog has turned and tucked his tail between his legs all they while trying not to piddle on himself.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6716 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:47 pm to
We'll know in the next 200 days.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64685 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

Looking at how it's going it seems to me that the lobbiests have paid off the establishment.


Well duh This has been going on for several thousand years of human history.

As to the ACA it took years to get it passed so it may take a day or two to get it altered.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:11 pm to
No
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6962 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:17 pm to
Gop lobbyist and donors make billions from obamacare.

Can you logically explain why they would want to stop it?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23445 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:20 pm to
I think once you realize that Mitt Romney was the architect of Obamacare then everything starts to make sense.
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33992 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:27 pm to
Remember when Trump said "Single payer has worked in Canada and it has worked incredibly well in Scotland."
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7920 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 8:52 pm to
Obamacare mainly benefits large corporations with a large unskilled workforce. These folks can now be kicked off of the company insurance.

The lower skilled are up next...followed by the high skilled.

Obamacare is a bill for the corporation, by the corporation. Which is why it won't be repealed quickly, if ever.

This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 9:27 pm
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6159 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

Looking at how it's going it seems to me that the lobbiests have paid off the establishment. Am I right in thinking it will never happen?


Well, I hope they can get jobs with those lobbiests because if they don't get rid of Obamacare now, they will be finding their asses the hell out of congress.
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