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re: Can you be fiscally conservative and socially liberal
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:02 pm to Walking the Earth
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:02 pm to Walking the Earth
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One word is shorter than typing "cutting to the bone or eliminating an unwanted program or programs"
Fair enough. I'll accept it at face value, then. It's still Bolshevism, but - whatever.
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Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:04 pm to Errerrerrwere
It doesn't seem to go hand in hand. Socially liberal would suggest funding for all sorts of social promgrams/welfare that a fiscally conservative person wouldn't want to spend money on. I suppose it's possible but I'm sure there are exceptions out there.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:07 pm to Errerrerrwere
Of course you can. Depending on your interpretation and definitions, I meet that.
Live and let live. Don't subsidize it.
Oh, and regarding social liberalism and tolerance, you have to also consider basic rules of social interaction. I don't care what a person's sexual preferences are, or their ethnicity. It's not my concern... and as such, I'm really not interested in someone getting in my face and making a scene about it either. There are way too many tender souls here who have no idea what actual repression is, and they need to grow up and stop throwing fits.
Live and let live. Don't subsidize it.
Oh, and regarding social liberalism and tolerance, you have to also consider basic rules of social interaction. I don't care what a person's sexual preferences are, or their ethnicity. It's not my concern... and as such, I'm really not interested in someone getting in my face and making a scene about it either. There are way too many tender souls here who have no idea what actual repression is, and they need to grow up and stop throwing fits.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:08 pm to parrothead
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Socially liberal would suggest funding for all sorts of social promgrams/welfare that a fiscally conservative person wouldn't want to spend money on.
No. Socially liberal is allowing people to live their lives free of government influence.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:10 pm to NikolaiJakov
quote:Your inferiority complex is noted.
Libertarians are just moderates with their nose in the air.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:12 pm to Errerrerrwere
I know a guy
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:15 pm to Errerrerrwere
Absolutely. IE you don't mind helping people who are down for a limited time and limit the cost of helping said people. It just comes down to controlling spending instead of typical government that will piss away tax payers money because it's not theirs.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:29 pm to Errerrerrwere
Yes.
But people want their Jesus and their dollars rubbing together. And if you find that distasteful you are called "not a conservative"
But people want their Jesus and their dollars rubbing together. And if you find that distasteful you are called "not a conservative"
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:29 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:
Can you be fiscally conservative and socially liberal
Depends on how a person defines each.
But the answer is, yes. Absolutely. Less government, leave people alone unless they're causing harm to others (by way of damaged property, physical harm, etc). There. Now you have the government spending less, and people free to do as they wish.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:54 pm to Errerrerrwere
I am socially "liberal" in that I don't want government making decisions for me or anyone else who is capable of self-determination.
I also don't want the means of production to be in the hands of the government. I want a free market with as few regulations as possible. If that makes me fiscally conservative, so be it.
So, I suppose the answer to the OP is yes, but I suspect there will be quite a few more discussions on the matter.
I also don't want the means of production to be in the hands of the government. I want a free market with as few regulations as possible. If that makes me fiscally conservative, so be it.
So, I suppose the answer to the OP is yes, but I suspect there will be quite a few more discussions on the matter.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 12:54 pm to Errerrerrwere
I beleive that the federal gov should be reduced dramatically as was intended and the vacuum left be partially filled by state governments. I also believe that we might need to implement a living wage if we cannot make a smooth transition into a post labor world. This form of wellfare would actually dramatically reduce the beaurocracy as it would eliminate most wellfare programs.
On social issues I think that marriage in the eyes of the gov should be nothing more than a contract. This would mean that there would be little regulation of who would be able to be married and I don't have a problem with same gender marriage. I take a status quo stance on abortion. I am against the war on drugs. I believe in maintaining a secular government. I am staunchly in support of our second ammendment.
So on some issues i am liberal, some libertarian, and others conservative. I would question anyone's judgement if they were 100% conservative or liberal on every single issue.
On social issues I think that marriage in the eyes of the gov should be nothing more than a contract. This would mean that there would be little regulation of who would be able to be married and I don't have a problem with same gender marriage. I take a status quo stance on abortion. I am against the war on drugs. I believe in maintaining a secular government. I am staunchly in support of our second ammendment.
So on some issues i am liberal, some libertarian, and others conservative. I would question anyone's judgement if they were 100% conservative or liberal on every single issue.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:08 pm to LSU2a
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On social issues I think that marriage in the eyes of the gov should be nothing more than a contract. This would mean that there would be little regulation of who would be able to be married and I don't have a problem with same gender marriage.
Exactly.
I am glad someone else thinks the same way.
I was disappointed that the SCOTUS did not use this reasoning when deciding the same-sex marriage case. The only requirements for a contract is that the parties (multiple parties as well) have the legal capacity to consent.
That allows for same-sex, or multi-party marriages. It does not allow for people to marry dogs, children, or trees, as none of them have the capacity to enter into a contract.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:10 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Exactly. I am glad someone else thinks the same way. I was disappointed that the SCOTUS did not use this reasoning when deciding the same-sex marriage case. The only requirements for a contract is that the parties (multiple parties as well) have the legal capacity to consent. That allows for same-sex, or multi-party marriages. It does not allow for people to marry dogs, children, or trees, as none of them have the capacity to enter into a contract.
This is exactly right. Libertarians would save this country so much headache and chaos.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:12 pm to Errerrerrwere
Depends on what you mean by socially liberal. If you mean the bat shite crazy version we have now, I have some doubts. If you mean traditional issues of liberty, absolutely.
Small government extends to the pocketbook and the home.
Small government extends to the pocketbook and the home.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:15 pm to KaiserSoze99
If gays had fought based on the contract portion of the issue instead of the word marriage they would have had their freedom to marry much, much sooner IMO. It was the stick in the eye to the Evangelicals by hanging on so tightly to the word marriage that caused most of the uproar. The government has no business in "marriage".
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:16 pm to Errerrerrwere
The biggest theme I gather from libertarian views is just less government. So I'd say yes.
Posted on 1/30/17 at 1:33 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:Only if your brain functions properly.
Can you be fiscally conservative and socially liberal
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