re: So Voter ID laws are supposedly racist........

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Im in favor of the government issuing FREE IDs to anyone who Can't afford them

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Have you familiarized yourself with some of the required documents needed for even a free ID, and some challenges some people have obtaining those documents?

Did you know that many of the things tha require an ID in the list in your first post, the places will accept an expired state ID? Guess where you can't use an expired state ID? So they should get a new one. Fair. Did you know in a transient society/economy a lot of people move between states, and some states require a current state ID to obtain a new state ID in that state?

Sometimes considering these things requires a little thinking outside the box and some empathy. Yes, to you and me it's a foreign concept to get through life without a driver's license or ID. There's a wealth of information out there that won't satiate your confirmation bias like this board will that can answer your question.

I don't think Voter ID law are inherently racist. I do think they're an attempt to discourage certain demographics from voting, or at the least make it more challenging for them.

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Have you familiarized yourself with some of the required documents needed for even a free ID, and some challenges some people have obtaining those documents?

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The Same documents you need to be registered in public school. If this is the case then start issuing ID's in high schools, and then keeps citizens in the system so they can renew every 5-10 years. Once you are in the system like at the DMV you stay there in the state you reside in.

We have the technology and ability to keep up with people on databases so I dont see why once someone is in a system it is so hard to stay in it unless people are trying to go off of the grid.

Of course you would give the middle finger to a group whos sole reason for being is to protect the rights of all citizens in the USA. But what did I really expect from this crowd
ACLU & Confederate Flag
ACLU Supporting KKK
An old NYT article from '88

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Have you familiarized yourself with some of the required documents needed for even a free ID, and some challenges some people have obtaining those documents?

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I don't give a frick. If you are not capable of obtaining an ID you are not capable of being an adult and don't deserve to vote. Quit sucking at being an adult and you have no problem.

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We have the technology and ability to keep up with people on databases so I dont see why once someone is in a system it is so hard to stay in it unless people are trying to go off of the grid.

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One would think, but our departments don't talk to each other. You're on the file with one agency, but not the other. And many of those are federal while voting is handled by the states. Every state should just implement automatic voter registration when you turn 18 like Oregon did. Then this part of the debate would end.

My bigger issue are the provisions in these laws that shorten early voting and the hours polls are open.

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Exactly. There is no reason on Earth why an American citizen cannot obtain an ID with minimal effort.

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U.S. Citizens Individuals who are U.S. citizens can present one of the following documents for verification through DHS. U.S. passport book or card Birth certificate issued by a U.S. state, U.S. territory or District of Columbia NOTE: Because Puerto Rican statute provides that Puerto Rican birth certificates issued before July 1, 2010 are no longer valid, the Department cannot recognize these birth certificates as proof of identification or lawful presence. For more information please select the following link. https://prfaa.pr.gov/birthcertificatesnd2.asp For U.S. citizens born abroad—Certificate of Report of Birth (DS-1350 or FS-545) or Consular Report of Birth (FS-240) issued by the U.S. Department of State U.S. Certificate of Citizenship or Certificate of Naturalization (N-560, N-561, N-645, N-550, N-55G, N-570 or N-578) U.S. Department of Justice Immigration and Naturalization Service U.S. Citizen ID Card (Form I-197 or I-179)

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Application form
All of this^ just to get an ID in TX. Not what one would call minimal effort unless a lawyer did it for you.

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Have you familiarized yourself with some of the required documents needed for even a free ID, and some challenges some people have obtaining those documents?

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And here is the shifted goalposts.

The answer is...who cares? That is their problem. The state is making it free. All they have to do is give a frick enough to get an ID.

There are only two major Western Democracies that don't universally require ID. It is insane and designed for one thing: fraud.

There is literally no other reason.

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All of this^ just to get an ID in TX. Not what one would call minimal effort

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can present one of the following documents for verification through DHS. U.S. passport book or card Birth certificate issued by a U.S. state, U.S. territory or District of Columbia

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Presenting a birth certificate or passport is "all of this", requiring a lawyer?

Get fricking real.

People who oppose voter ID laws know what's going on. I suppose every modern country is racist since they all have voter ID laws, even the glorious Sweden. But for some reason it is racist for America to do it. They and everyone else knows why.