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re: So Voter ID laws are supposedly racist........
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:45 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:45 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
You better check your white privilege!!!11!
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Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:46 pm to BamaAtl
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I have an excellent argument.
Lol, no you don't. I doubt you've ever had one.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:47 pm to 10888bge
Actually, I would call that minimal effort. However, I could see how producing a birth certificate could be troublesome if you weren't born in the country.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:50 pm to TheRodFather
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I could see how producing a birth certificate could be troublesome if you weren't born in the country.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:51 pm to Fun Bunch
Yes a birth certificate. So you have to get one from the which ever county registrar's office you were born in, depending on the state, pay their fees and wait to have it snail mailed to you. Took a month to get mine when I first registered and 150$
Passport - took 3 weeks to get mine. Book 110, card 30$
Right there is 290$ just to have the ID for the right to vote.
The whole basis is voting is a right. You don't pay to get a right to anything. If you do it is no longer a right but a privilege.
Passport - took 3 weeks to get mine. Book 110, card 30$
Right there is 290$ just to have the ID for the right to vote.
The whole basis is voting is a right. You don't pay to get a right to anything. If you do it is no longer a right but a privilege.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:53 pm to 10888bge
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Yes a birth certificate. So you have to get one from the which ever county registrar's office you were born in, depending on the state, pay their fees and wait to have it snail mailed to you. Took a month to get mine when I first registered and 150$
Passport - took 3 weeks to get mine. Book 110, card 30$
Right there is 290$ just to have the ID for the right to vote.
The whole basis Voting is a right. You don't pay to get a right to anything. If you do it is no longer a right but a privilege.
Uhhhh..... Math, much?
Regardless, what if the process were truly free?
Again, I give you 4 years to get this done.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:55 pm to 10888bge
Is that really supposed to sound difficult? Receiving something by snail mail, oh heavens!
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:56 pm to BamaAtl
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We do have indications from multiple sources that voter ID laws as they're written in the US are disproportionately disenfranchising to minorities (sometimes intentionally, sometimes accidentally).
This is such nonsense. Minorities are not "disenfranchised." Getting an ID is the same process regardless of skin color. There are no special impediments for minorities. Making that claim is racist bc you assume minorities aren't capable of achieving the simple task of getting an ID. If it affects voter turnout then it's bc minorities simply didn't want to take the step to get the ID.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:56 pm to 10888bge
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The whole basis Voting is a right. You don't pay to get a right to anything. If you do it is no longer a right but a privilege.
I'm starting to see why you may have a problem with the issue, since it seems like English is not your first language.
Your rationale is flawed. You want me to agree that, say, food is a privilege, since it has to be paid for? If so, then we are subsidizing privileges via the EBT program?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:57 pm to cajunandy
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his is what I found
and I found a dumb white bitch who has to interrupt, every time her black interlocutor makes a salient point.
Damn.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:57 pm to 10888bge
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You don't pay to get a right to anything
Really. I have to pay taxes to get a gun from my gun store owning rich shitlord buddy. They are taxed. They tax me so that I might exercise my rights afforded by 2A.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 2:58 pm to 10888bge
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Right there is 290$ just to have the ID for the right to vote.
No. You don't have to have both. Just one. Reading comprehension is hard.
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The whole basis is voting is a right. You don't pay to get a right to anything. If you do it is no longer a right but a privilege.
Why does literally every industrialized western democracy require ID except for the UK and US?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:01 pm to Ag Zwin
It is not minimal effort as LSUPat put it. It is an involved effort, a costly effort, depending on you income bracket. That was the only point I debated. Not that someone doesn't have years to get it done.
You don't pay for the right to bare arms, nor should you.
You don't pay for the right to say what you want, nor should you.
You don't pay for the right to peacefully assemble, nor should you
Give me one reason you should pay for the right to vote?
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Regardless, what if the process were truly free?
You don't pay for the right to bare arms, nor should you.
You don't pay for the right to say what you want, nor should you.
You don't pay for the right to peacefully assemble, nor should you
Give me one reason you should pay for the right to vote?
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:01 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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The argument is that those other things are fundamental rights, and voting is.
ABSOLUTELY
Voting is not always a fundamental right. Before anyone goes nuts, this is some in the weeds constitutional law crap that will get deep.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:01 pm to Ag Zwin
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To his credit, the kid backed out
So you're saying you did NOT witness in-person voter fraud? Okay...
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:03 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
Liberals automatically assume minorities are too stupid to get an ID. They believe they don't know where the DMV is, they don't know how to use the internet, they do not have access to the internet,etc... The Voter ID issue is hilarious because liberals unknowingly expose their own racism.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:04 pm to roadGator
You aren't paying for the right to own it are you, you are paying the agreed upon price which is taxed. now if you had to pay to get a piece of paper so you could go to your rich shitlord buddy and then pay him for a gun, your point would be valid.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:05 pm to 10888bge
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You don't pay for the right to bare arms, nor should you.
You don't pay for the right to say what you want, nor should you.
You don't pay for the right to peacefully assemble, nor should you
Give me one reason you should pay for the right to vote?
Gun Permit = Not free
Peaceably Assemble = All kinds of permit fees for parades and events
I'll grant you the speak part, but I bet I could find gray area.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:06 pm to BamaAtl
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We have no indications that in-person fraud is happening
Voter ID will give us a metric to use in making that determination.
If you want to be proven right, you should be eager to put this tool into action.
Just think of all the "I told you so" moments you could have here.
Posted on 1/24/17 at 3:07 pm to Chimlim
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Liberals automatically assume minorities are too stupid to get an ID. They believe they don't know where the DMV is, they don't know how to use the internet, they do not have access to the internet,etc... The Voter ID issue is hilarious because liberals unknowingly expose their own racism.
You assume I am arguing for the minority. I am not. I am arguing for the bottom class to be able to exercise their God given, Constitutionally guaranteed right to vote, without infringement.
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