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Saw this stat concerning Etling's deep passes

Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94720 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:25 pm
quote:

In four SEC contests, LSU QB Danny Etling has completed just three attempts of at least 20 yards through the air out of 18 tries.


From ProFootballFocus (They go on to predict we lose 33-16 )

Well that's less than ideal. 16.6%


This has been my concern. We probably can't rely on the ground game against Bama. You can find yards against the Bama secondary...particularly with Eddie Jackson injured now. Testing the secondary isn't a strength of Etling's. His strength is short to intermediate passing but I worry Bama has the speed at LB to limit the effectiveness there. Can we really expect to dink and dunk our way down the field against that defense?
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 1:27 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68460 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:26 pm to
He's been awful at deep passes, no other way around it. It's a major weakness of his passing game.

Very good at the short and intermediate timing throws. Cannot put a ball on point >30 yards to save his life.
This post was edited on 11/3/16 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Rougarou13
Brookhaven MS
Member since Feb 2015
6839 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:27 pm to
They are by definition low percentage throws, however, that is lower than we would want. It'll work itself out.
Posted by Mir
Member since Sep 2016
2777 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:27 pm to
Shut the hell up god damn all this constant worrying it's like y'all ain't ever done anything hard in your life or played a god damn sport Jesus Christ son root for our tigers and ignore the rest
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10453 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:29 pm to
What would a reasonable % be?
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3279 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:45 pm to
From October 2014:

quote:

om Brady has attempted 16 passes over 20 yards this season. He has completed only one. ...“Brady has the best arm under 15 yards but the worst deep arm,” the scout said via text.


LINK

Not too worried.
Posted by LSUFrosty
Member since Jan 2012
1861 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:46 pm to
How many of those attempts were on 3rd and long? That's the worst scenario to be throwing those deep passes, and I feel like he was in that spot a lot.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10186 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:48 pm to
Just keep the D from overloading the box and make them second guess. That's what we need from Etling.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:55 pm to
Confuse Jackson's replacement. Quick, deep passes may be available.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45072 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:56 pm to
Jalen Hurts sucks at the deep ball

I swear its like some of yall assume LSU is the only one with weaknesses.

quote:

His biggest weakness has been accuracy down the field. Hurts has connected on just six throws that have travelled 20 yards or more through the air (27 attempts). With three of those coming on scramble plays — outside of the structure of the offense. Without hitting shot plays, Alabama’s offense becomes overly horizontal and much easier to defend.


quote:

Hurts has flashed, but now he needs to find consistency. True freshman or not, completing 23 percent of balls down the field isn’t going to be good enough.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70945 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:56 pm to
quick slants, screens, stop routes, etc

finna eat
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43223 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:56 pm to
Put in Harris for deep throws and Etling for short/intermediate throws and the toss dive delivery.

They'll never suspect it.
Posted by ProudTigerTom
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2016
170 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 1:58 pm to
Shush it.
That was the secret play in the secret play book that was supposed to be a secret in the secret 5th quarter of the game secretly Saturday.
Damn it Jim
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:02 pm to
Need to let BH throw a few
Posted by Motion Lotion
Feelgoodville
Member since Nov 2014
64 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:03 pm to
Good thing Bama's kid isn't very good at the deep ball either.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8821 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:06 pm to
Don't even care.

Danny isn't going to get enough protection for deep routes to develop anyway.

Short routes and feeding the ball to the TE's is the way to win this game.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4309 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Well that's less than ideal. 16.6%


I wouldn't worry too much on the deep balls. It's called "taking a shot" for a reason. They're low percentage passes but the reward is great. Many times they're just used to try and soften the defense and set up underneath throws later on. It also forces your opponent out of stacking the box.

I'll give an honest prediction. If Etling completes 60% of his passes, this is an extremely close game. If he complete 65% we win.
Posted by atxfan
Member since Jul 2004
3551 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:21 pm to
That's not good but I think a few of those are probably balls that Dupre could/should have come down with. In any event, I had heard a stat earlier that Bama had given up more 20+ yard plays this year than they had in recent years so something's gotta give. I'm feeling like some of these trends will fall our way with home field advantage.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5828 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:23 pm to
Bombs don't beat Bama. Saban hasn't lost on deep passes since Arkansas and Iowa in 2004. Accurate passes over the middle that force his LBs to cover or chase beats Bama. Stretching runs wide that make the LBs run past the tackle beat Bama. Buying time in the pocket and hitting a TE or RB that make LBs cover or chase beats Bama.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28494 posts
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:29 pm to
There's no way to sugar coat it. Etling has been pretty bad throwing the deep ball. However, IMO, I think much of that has been a byproduct of him hanging on to the ball just a bit too long.

Still, LSU has to take deep shots to make Bama account for it. My hope is that (1) with this being Etiling's 7th game played (for LSU) and 6th start, he is starting to develop better timing with his WR and (2) he knows he'll have to get rid of the ball quicker against Bama. Therefore, he will almost involuntarily keep from hanging on to the ball just a bit too long and will actually deliver it on time as a result.
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