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re: Child support payments
Posted on 6/9/16 at 6:43 am to Gtothemoney
Posted on 6/9/16 at 6:43 am to Gtothemoney
A wise sage who went by the name of Juvenile once said, "you got served that supoena for child support ha"
I hope that helped.
I hope that helped.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 6:50 am to KG6
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am I a slave to our previous "standard of living"?
I'll start with this since there is so much retarded in this thread...and in general I'm speaking about Louisiana law.
A few things people really need to know:
1. The law governing your custody and child support payments will differ depending on several factors but it's mainly based on the state in which the child or custodial parent resides; however there can be other contributing factors. Family law will differ from state to state and what you can expect in LA may be completely different in MS or AL. In Louisiana, for example, a spouses income is only considered if you can prove that the new spouses income contributes to the ex's portion of the household expenses. This is generally a very tough burden to prove and (in Louisiana at least) it is rare that a spouses income is allowed to be considered when calculating child support. Rare as it may be, it has happened.....but read #2 carefully because even if you are able to prove it, it doesn't necessarily mean much.
2. Family law isn't necessarily black and white. Judges have a tremendous amount of discretion with regard to how they rule on each case and ultimately their rulings are supposed to lean toward the best interest of the child. What a judge does in my case does not determine what the judge does in your case. They rule based on facts in a case by case basis.
3. Yes, (at least in Louisiana) you can be held to a higher standard of living even if you quit your job. Child support can be calculated based on "potential income". So, sure, you CAN absolutely quit your high paying job once child support amount is set; however, the judge can and generally will NOT recalculate your child support obligation based on your lower income, so in many cases you will still be liable for the higher payments. If you legitimately lose a job due to industry downturn or some other factor such as disability, etc. then you MAY qualify for lower payments. This is where a judges discretion will come into play.
The judges discretion is the biggest wildcard. They can rule pretty much however they want and claim that the ruling is (at least in their eyes) in the best interest of the child at the time. Get a lawyer. Yes, a good one is going to cost you, but generally they are worth it.
And finally....the people stating that your relationship with your ex is a huge factor are absolutely correct. Things change. People change. Regardless of whether or not you like the terms of your judgment or child support order, always abide by it and do what's best for your child(ren). Be a good parent. Give them all the love and support they need. Spend as much time with them as you can and build memories. These are things you will never regret.
ETA: In Louisiana there is an Excel spreadsheet that is used to calculate general child support payment amounts. It takes many factors into account including both parents incomes, expenses, etc. One of the MAJOR factors is how much time the child spends with each parent. There are two tabs in this spreadsheet. The amount of time that your child is with you determines which tab (worksheet A vs worksheet B) your payments will be calculated on. Obviously if you don't spend a certain amount of time with your child (it's a percentage and you can either do the research or ask your attorney) your payments are calculated at a higher percentage of the totals. Again, the judge will have a tremendous amount of discretion when it comes to this and most other things in your case. The calculation that the spreadsheet spits out is a suggestion. They can lower or raise the amount you pay based on the facts you and/or your ex present. Your ex (or baby momma) can also agree to a lower amount. This is why it is wise to stay in good terms with your ex (whenever possible) and seek a legal professionals help. It may cost you up front, but can wind up saving you in the long run.
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 7:17 am
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:19 am to Gtothemoney
Child support in Louisiana is based on a combination of the two parents income.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:37 am to Gtothemoney
Child support in Louisiana is mainly based on the combined income of the 2 parents. Once you have that number the court will determine what percentage you make of the combined monthly income . ie: combined 100K annually. you make 60K/annually and your ex makes 40k annually. You are responsible for 60% of the child support.
Then you can go look on the support guideline chart and find out what the support is for your combined income and you owe 60% of that number.Other things that come into consideration is the amount of time you have your child and health insurance
Then you can go look on the support guideline chart and find out what the support is for your combined income and you owe 60% of that number.Other things that come into consideration is the amount of time you have your child and health insurance
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:42 am to Gtothemoney
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do they only consider what I make, or will my spouse's income also be added?
Not sure about your state. In Tennessee, child support is based on your percentage of contribution to the combined income of you and your ex (along with % custody). Then each of your child related expenses are taken out to determine a % contribution to the entire child's care. If you remarried, your spouses income is not included (as she is not fiscally responsible for the care of your children through a previous marriage).
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:45 am to Gtothemoney
Make sure you factor in the $ you'll spend on an attorney. Always, always work it out directly with the ex (if possible).
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:48 am to MakersMark
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Once you have that number the court will determine what percentage you make of the combined monthly income .
Don't forget that said calculated income isn't based on what your hourly rate is on a 2080 hour work year. It's based on your W2 so if you worked a bunch of overtime during the period that they use in their calculation, then they screw you into paying it based on that calculation and not the calculation based on an hourly rate during a typical 2080 hour work year.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:49 am to DaTroof
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The judges discretion is the biggest wildcard.
Only if you let it go to court and have the state decide. If the two people are on good terms and can work out their own agreement, then a judge may never even see your child support case. Louisiana does allow people to set their own agreements up. This is the case with myself right now. I still determine payment based on the tables in the civil code though. My case is a little tougher because both my ex and I are considered the custodial parents and neither of us has more say than the other. Its truly 50/50 across the board on everything and this is recognized in the custody agreement the court has on file.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:23 am to Steadyhands
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If the two people are on good terms and can work out their own agreement
Yes...This is why I strongly suggest keeping in good terms with the ex (or baby momma). Yours is a best case scenario and not everyone is so lucky. The thing is...even if you get a bad ruling today, it can always be changed in the future if the two parents agree to something different. This is a "keep your enemies closer" sort of perspective.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:11 am to Steadyhands
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Get your priorities in check baw, put your child first, suck up your pride, and get over your beef with her. That shite didn't work out, get over it.
All ex'es aren't created equal buddy. You are fortunate.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:36 am to lildaddy86
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Best advice I can give you is to just stay peaceful with the ex. She can make your life hell dealing with that crap. Been there and done that, now I just write them checks and go on with my business.
Absolutely, it's best to just write the checks and move on. I was paying over $800 in child support and daycare obligation, got it reduced down to an even $700. I can swing that and so I just write the checks. I could go back and argue that he's not on day care but that would just cause drama. Plus he's in private school which I had convinced her to do so I'm good paying my share. I know a good chunk is paying tuition.
The best bet is to move though, I live about an hour and a half away from son, and it's a 45 min drive to pick him up. But nobody where I live knows her and I'm free to move about, and if my wife and I upgrade vehicles or houses, or get better jobs and raises, that's our businesses that doesn't have to be shared or gossiped about. That I believe is key. And keep shite off Facebook.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:54 am to Gtothemoney
Is it 50/50
Then they figure out the total cost to raise each child monthly and divide that number in half. Each parent is responsible for half.
If you make double what she does than you would be responsible for 67% and her 33%.
Go to your state of residence and use their child support payment calculator.
Then they figure out the total cost to raise each child monthly and divide that number in half. Each parent is responsible for half.
If you make double what she does than you would be responsible for 67% and her 33%.
Go to your state of residence and use their child support payment calculator.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 9:54 am to Gtothemoney
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Child support payments
Posted on 6/9/16 at 10:50 am to WalkingTurtles
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The best bet is to move though, I live about an hour and a half away from son, and it's a 45 min drive to pick him up.
So do you live 45 minutes from your son or an hour and a half?
If you want 50% custody then you have to move closer to your child, not farther away. Doesn't have to be right next door or anything, but once the child goes to school it's going to be a pain in the arse to drive 45 minutes every day to and from the school. On the other hand if you're ok with less than 50% custody then yes, definitely move.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:11 am to DaTroof
Here's my experience with Louisiana child support:
We use DCFS to audit the payment arrangement each year. We both have similar income levels.
Provide last year's tax filing, Last 5 months of pay stubs.
Indicate amount of time the child resides in your home
Indicate/prove the expenses you have covered over the previous year for items such as child daycare, health/visual/dental insurance, and school tuition.
Throw it all together and mix it with the LA state payment equation and you get the monthly payment. The check I cut to my ex is comparatively low due to our equal levels in income earnings and the fact I pay for healthcare coverage.
advice for newly divorced dads:
Try to get "Domiciliary Parent" title even if it means you give up more equity in marital property or other non-child related items. 50/50 custody still requires one parent be declared the primary custodian. This might not seem important when the child is younger than 4 but it is incredibly important for school ages
Try to live in the same school district as the ex. It makes school busing/commuting so much easier.
We use DCFS to audit the payment arrangement each year. We both have similar income levels.
Provide last year's tax filing, Last 5 months of pay stubs.
Indicate amount of time the child resides in your home
Indicate/prove the expenses you have covered over the previous year for items such as child daycare, health/visual/dental insurance, and school tuition.
Throw it all together and mix it with the LA state payment equation and you get the monthly payment. The check I cut to my ex is comparatively low due to our equal levels in income earnings and the fact I pay for healthcare coverage.
advice for newly divorced dads:
Try to get "Domiciliary Parent" title even if it means you give up more equity in marital property or other non-child related items. 50/50 custody still requires one parent be declared the primary custodian. This might not seem important when the child is younger than 4 but it is incredibly important for school ages
Try to live in the same school district as the ex. It makes school busing/commuting so much easier.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:11 am to Gtothemoney
They consider income, assets and earning capacity of both spouses including health insurance and other necessary costs for the child
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:14 am to Gtothemoney
In La, your new soouse's income not included. Just add your income and expenses-wife's income, monthly, go to Child Support tables and figure it out. Add health insurance too.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:17 am to Gtothemoney
You'll end up paying for everything. Meanwhile her and the new guy she's banging can afford to take the kids to Disney and buy them stuff. And you look like an ahole because all you can do is take them to the park and Chic-fil-A, after you get done paying for daycare, insurance, clothes, etc.
Welcome to hell my friend.
Welcome to hell my friend.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:18 am to DaTroof
No I'm pretty much locked in with every other weekend and holidays and summers. From my house to his house is about an hour and a half. I meet his mom at a halfway point that is about 45 mins away.
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