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re: Is Kawhi Leonard the best all-around player in the NBA?
Posted on 5/7/16 at 3:37 am to stevo1905
Posted on 5/7/16 at 3:37 am to stevo1905
Per 100 possessions khawi has an offensive rating of 121 (higher than Westbrook by 6, lebron james by 5, 1 point behind Kevin Durant, 4 behind Curry)
And a defensive rating of 96
that so far ahead of everyone else I'm not even gonna waste my time. Lebron is next at 103 which is bullshite aside above avg defense. So is Westbrook.
All around player? It's not even a debate. BEST player? That's debatable.
There is only one man who has the power to channel Westbrook energy for the good of humanity. That man is Larry brown. I fricking guarantee there will be no mean mugging refs while your man shoots uncontested threes under brown. Brown would make Westbrook a legit superstar in every since of the word.
And a defensive rating of 96
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All around player? It's not even a debate. BEST player? That's debatable.
There is only one man who has the power to channel Westbrook energy for the good of humanity. That man is Larry brown. I fricking guarantee there will be no mean mugging refs while your man shoots uncontested threes under brown. Brown would make Westbrook a legit superstar in every since of the word.
Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:32 am to Ryan3232
Lebron
AD
Draymond
KD
Towns
then Kawhi...
AD
Draymond
KD
Towns
then Kawhi...
Posted on 5/7/16 at 9:34 am to SOCAL TIGER
AD had a down year compared to his 30+ PER season, but he still put up 24/10/2 at an efficient clip.
He needs to stop shooting 3's.
He needs to stop shooting 3's.
Posted on 5/7/16 at 1:38 pm to chRxis
quote:
Lebron
AD
Draymond
KD
Towns
then Kawhi...
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Posted on 5/7/16 at 1:39 pm to okietiger
quote:I would too
I would trade KD for Kawhi straight up. Not even kidding.
And it pains me to type that.
Posted on 5/7/16 at 1:43 pm to chRxis
quote:
Lebron
AD
Draymond
KD
Towns
then Kawhi...
Oh ok we on that pure bullshite today I see
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Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:02 pm to vengeanceofrain
Kobe could come out of retirement TODAY and whoop dat arse
Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:09 pm to Ryan3232
quote:
bullshite.
Well list them, please....
I think Curry, Lebron, Durant and Westbrook are better players right now than Kawhi, but he's a step above AD, Harden, Paul George, etc. Kawhi is playing great for the best coach franchise, but I'm not sure if he's capable of carrying a team offensively like those four can.
Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:14 pm to AlexLSU
quote:You done did it now
but I'm not sure if he's capable of carrying a team offensively like those four can
Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:49 pm to AlexLSU
It pains me to see so many people putting Westbrook in their top 5.
I'm sorry, I just cant endorse him that highly. He's great in a vacuum analysis but not top 5 great in full context IMO. He is a low efficiency chucker that plays spotty defense and hasn't shown he can actually facilitate and run a 5 man offense consistently that doesn't just involve ISO and simple drive and kicks most of the time but wants the ball in his hands almost constantly. If your name is not Durant he is career role player poison for you.
Give me Curry, Wall or Paul at the point any day. Give me Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, over him too. Long term give me KAT or Davis as well. Westbrook is an elite player, but until he learns how to play 5 man basketball and stop trying to do everything with all the downsides that have came with that over the years, I don't think a Westbrook led team will ever chip. And that's the ultimate goal for me as a fan. So I would have a hard time building around a guy like him.
I'm sorry, I just cant endorse him that highly. He's great in a vacuum analysis but not top 5 great in full context IMO. He is a low efficiency chucker that plays spotty defense and hasn't shown he can actually facilitate and run a 5 man offense consistently that doesn't just involve ISO and simple drive and kicks most of the time but wants the ball in his hands almost constantly. If your name is not Durant he is career role player poison for you.
Give me Curry, Wall or Paul at the point any day. Give me Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, over him too. Long term give me KAT or Davis as well. Westbrook is an elite player, but until he learns how to play 5 man basketball and stop trying to do everything with all the downsides that have came with that over the years, I don't think a Westbrook led team will ever chip. And that's the ultimate goal for me as a fan. So I would have a hard time building around a guy like him.
This post was edited on 5/7/16 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:58 pm to NOLA Bronco
I agree. All Westbrook would have to do is realize that he can't shoot and stop shooting 3 pointers and he'd be a much better player for it. There's no reason for him to shoot 31 times in a game like he did last night.
Posted on 5/7/16 at 3:07 pm to Rocco Lampone
quote:Over Curry?
Not me. I would pick him over anyone else.
Yikes
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:40 pm to shel311
So, we still think kawhi is better than durant?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:41 pm to okietiger
quote:
I would trade KD for Kawhi straight up. Not even kidding.
And it pains me to type that.
Way to fold Okie
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:48 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:
So, we still think kawhi is better than durant?
I don't...I think KD is better, but it's not like Durant is miles better. That series didn't prove or disprove anything. I don't have an issue for anyone thinking Leonard is better.
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:37 pm to PortCityTiger24
KD outplayed Kawhi in all but one game and that did not prove anything?
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:58 pm to LittleRockHog501
quote:
KD outplayed Kawhi in all but one game and that did not prove anything?
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