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re: Is Kawhi Leonard the best all-around player in the NBA?

Posted on 5/7/16 at 3:37 am to
Posted by vengeanceofrain
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Posted on 5/7/16 at 3:37 am to
Per 100 possessions khawi has an offensive rating of 121 (higher than Westbrook by 6, lebron james by 5, 1 point behind Kevin Durant, 4 behind Curry)

And a defensive rating of 96 that so far ahead of everyone else I'm not even gonna waste my time. Lebron is next at 103 which is bullshite aside above avg defense. So is Westbrook.


All around player? It's not even a debate. BEST player? That's debatable.


There is only one man who has the power to channel Westbrook energy for the good of humanity. That man is Larry brown. I fricking guarantee there will be no mean mugging refs while your man shoots uncontested threes under brown. Brown would make Westbrook a legit superstar in every since of the word.
Posted by chRxis
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:32 am to
Lebron
AD
Draymond
KD
Towns

then Kawhi...
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 5/7/16 at 7:48 am to
Posted by SOCAL TIGER
SOCAL
Member since Jan 2005
10724 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 9:21 am to
Draymond Green may disagree
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30190 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 9:34 am to
AD had a down year compared to his 30+ PER season, but he still put up 24/10/2 at an efficient clip.

He needs to stop shooting 3's.
Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/7/16 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

Lebron
AD
Draymond
KD
Towns

then Kawhi...



Posted by Ryan3232
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Posted on 5/7/16 at 1:39 pm to
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I would trade KD for Kawhi straight up. Not even kidding.

And it pains me to type that.
I would too
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/7/16 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Lebron
AD
Draymond
KD
Towns

then Kawhi...


Oh ok we on that pure bullshite today I see
Posted by theunknownknight
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Member since Sep 2005
57511 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:02 pm to
Kobe could come out of retirement TODAY and whoop dat arse
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

bullshite.


Well list them, please....


I think Curry, Lebron, Durant and Westbrook are better players right now than Kawhi, but he's a step above AD, Harden, Paul George, etc. Kawhi is playing great for the best coach franchise, but I'm not sure if he's capable of carrying a team offensively like those four can.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83852 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

but I'm not sure if he's capable of carrying a team offensively like those four can
You done did it now
Posted by NOLA Bronco
Member since Dec 2014
1898 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:49 pm to
It pains me to see so many people putting Westbrook in their top 5.

I'm sorry, I just cant endorse him that highly. He's great in a vacuum analysis but not top 5 great in full context IMO. He is a low efficiency chucker that plays spotty defense and hasn't shown he can actually facilitate and run a 5 man offense consistently that doesn't just involve ISO and simple drive and kicks most of the time but wants the ball in his hands almost constantly. If your name is not Durant he is career role player poison for you.

Give me Curry, Wall or Paul at the point any day. Give me Kawhi, Lebron, Durant, over him too. Long term give me KAT or Davis as well. Westbrook is an elite player, but until he learns how to play 5 man basketball and stop trying to do everything with all the downsides that have came with that over the years, I don't think a Westbrook led team will ever chip. And that's the ultimate goal for me as a fan. So I would have a hard time building around a guy like him.
This post was edited on 5/7/16 at 2:53 pm
Posted by beaverfever
Little Rock
Member since Jan 2008
32869 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 2:58 pm to
I agree. All Westbrook would have to do is realize that he can't shoot and stop shooting 3 pointers and he'd be a much better player for it. There's no reason for him to shoot 31 times in a game like he did last night.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111291 posts
Posted on 5/7/16 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Not me. I would pick him over anyone else.

Over Curry?

Yikes
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:40 pm to
So, we still think kawhi is better than durant?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

I would trade KD for Kawhi straight up. Not even kidding.

And it pains me to type that.


Way to fold Okie
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
87455 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

So, we still think kawhi is better than durant?


I don't...I think KD is better, but it's not like Durant is miles better. That series didn't prove or disprove anything. I don't have an issue for anyone thinking Leonard is better.

Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
2485 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:37 pm to
KD outplayed Kawhi in all but one game and that did not prove anything?
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 5/13/16 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

KD outplayed Kawhi in all but one game and that did not prove anything?



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