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re: Somewhat shocking stat. Curry vs MJ
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:08 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:08 am to Topwater Trout
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3pts>2pts
but dunks are higher percentage shots and 51/100 2 pointers = 34/100 3 pointers.
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Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:11 am to lsupride87
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He would hit way more threes. Defense was worse then. Plus the Pistons wouldnt know how the hell to guard the perimeter
1989- 109 pts per game league average
2015- 100 pts per game league average
lol Joe Dumars would guard Curry better than anyone.
Whenever someone says back then they played defense it lets me know they don't know shite about the NBA. Because the NBA shifted drastically during MJ's career it went from no defense when MJ had his best seasons in the 80s to super defensive by the 2nd 3peat.
This current era is closer to the 80's than the late 90s/early 00s though
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 10:21 am
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:18 am to H-Town Tiger
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but dunks are higher percentage shots and 51/100 2 pointers = 34/100 3 pointers.
but Curry makes 47/100 3 pointers
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:18 am to genuineLSUtiger
quote:oh no
That's because teams actually has something called defense back then
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:19 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:This is a silly argument, but nonetheless, that's a eFG% of around 70%, I believe?
but Curry makes 47/100 3 pointers
So if MJ makes more than 70% of his dunk attempts...you get the idea.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:19 am to VerlanderBEAST
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super defensive by the 2nd 3peat.
This current era is closer to the 80's than the late 90s/early 00s though
Super defensive? Or just watered down because the league added 4 teams in 7 years?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:19 am to Chad504boy
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Pippen had a great year, no doubt. He got a lot of MVP votes cause he's filling "michael's shoes". He was only 8th in NBA in ppg, OVER 10 PPG fewer than Michael previous year. Terrific and honorable year for Pip but they won a playoff series and got beat next round.
They probably win it all without MJ if Pippen and Grant don't get injured during the season. They lost in 7 to the Knicks on the road who lost in 7 to the Rockets on the road.
If Pippen and Grant don't get injured during the year they have homcourt and VERY LIKELY win the championship without MJ in 94
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:22 am to Biggereztiger
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Somewhat shocking stat. Curry vs MJ
Last WEEK Curry made 33 three point shots.
Jordan made more than 33 three point shots in a SEASON in only 4 of his 15 seasons!
Honestly not shocking at all, really.
The guys simply played in different eras. the three pointer just wasn't a routine shot in the 80's and 90's (let alone before that.) It's not that there were not guys that could have shot it with a pretty high accuracy, it's that the game was still mostly a big man's game with the ball being pushed into the paint.
Steph Curry is the reason why I've gotten back into watching the NBA. I love his game, and the way it can be seen to really allow the evolution of the NBA much the same way Jordan's athleticism did back in the 80's.
But...and this is absolutely no shot at Curry...he's not the only guy who's ever lived who could shoot the ball. He's just the first REALLY frickING AWESOME shooter who has been given the absolute green light to launch it at any time. He's got the luxury of being the gunner on what looks so much like Paul Westhead's Loyola-Marymount's system it's scary. Plus...and here aside from him being so damn accurate, is what sets him a apart...the guy never stands still. He's working CONSTANTLY without the ball to free himself to get a shot off when the ball gets back to him. It's a thing of beauty...and he's earned all the accolades he's gotten so far this season.
There's just not reason to compare these guys with a stat like this... Jordan was not the long range shooter Curry is, but had he played at a time when 3's were as routine as they are today does anyone doubt he'd have made more? The better comparison would be to a guy like Reggie Miller who could shoot the hell out of it. What could he have done in today's game?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:22 am to GeauxTigersLee
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Curry is by far the best shooter in the NBA. But Jordan is overall a better basketball player.
Curry is a better offensive player though
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:23 am to H-Town Tiger
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but dunks are higher percentage shots and 51/100 2 pointers = 34/100 3 pointers.
you think MJ ever had 33 dunks in a week? Curry had 33 3ptrs...that is ridiculous
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:38 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:Not even close. Like not even close at all
This current era is closer to the 80's than the late 90s/early 00s though
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:41 am to GeauxTigerTM
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Honestly not shocking at all, really.
The guys simply played in different eras. the three pointer just wasn't a routine shot in the 80's and 90's (let alone before that.) It's not that there were not guys that could have shot it with a pretty high accuracy, it's that the game was still mostly a big man's game with the ball being pushed into the paint.
Steph Curry is the reason why I've gotten back into watching the NBA. I love his game, and the way it can be seen to really allow the evolution of the NBA much the same way Jordan's athleticism did back in the 80's.
But...and this is absolutely no shot at Curry...he's not the only guy who's ever lived who could shoot the ball. He's just the first REALLY frickING AWESOME shooter who has been given the absolute green light to launch it at any time. He's got the luxury of being the gunner on what looks so much like Paul Westhead's Loyola-Marymount's system it's scary. Plus...and here aside from him being so damn accurate, is what sets him a apart...the guy never stands still. He's working CONSTANTLY without the ball to free himself to get a shot off when the ball gets back to him. It's a thing of beauty...and he's earned all the accolades he's gotten so far this season.
There's just not reason to compare these guys with a stat like this... Jordan was not the long range shooter Curry is, but had he played at a time when 3's were as routine as they are today does anyone doubt he'd have made more? The better comparison would be to a guy like Reggie Miller who could shoot the hell out of it. What could he have done in today's game?
I'm not sure why somebody is already downvoting this, as it's one of the most levelheaded posts in here. I guess the fanboys are sensitive today...
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:42 am to VerlanderBEAST
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lol Joe Dumars would guard Curry better than anyone.
This is some down home Michigan homerism right here
I love me some Bruce Bowen, and even I think he would have gotten embarrassed by Curry. Defenses in Dumars' day simply didn't have to account for anything along the lines of what Curry does on a nightly basis.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:42 am to lsupride87
quote:In terms of style of play yes it is closer to the run and gun 80s than the late 90s/early 00s. I don't even think its arguable.
Not even close. Like not even close at all
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:43 am to VerlanderBEAST
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In terms of style of play yes it is closer to the run and gun 80s
Except with better defense today.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:46 am to MusclesofBrussels
quote:He wouldnt be that much better. His percentage isnt going to go up by taking more threes. If anything it would do down. People also guard the three much better today then back in the day due to the fact there is more emphasis on it.
The better comparison would be to a guy like Reggie Miller who could shoot the hell out of it. What could he have done in today's game?
Reggie Miller 3p% 39.5%
Steph Curry 3p% 44.6%
To have 5% higher while taking more threes is unreal. Everyone talks about how the three is bigger in todays game which is true, but that also means guarding the 3 is bigger, which makes it tougher to have a good %
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:46 am to VerlanderBEAST
quote:You cant even compare the defense of today to the 80s. It is comparing an apple to a bulldozer.
In terms of style of play yes it is closer to the run and gun 80s than the late 90s/early 00s. I don't even think its arguable.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:48 am to TbirdSpur2010
You couldn't even sleep with your teammate's wife in the 80s if you were a playboy Frenchman PG
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:49 am to RonBurgundy
quote:Have yall not realized most LeBron "fanboys" also like Curry? You know why? Because they are normal people who like watching awesome basketball and dont have an irrational hatred stick lodged in their arse
This season is like The Alamo for LeBron fanboys
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:50 am to TbirdSpur2010
quote:1st Dumars is a much better defender than Bowen so I don't know where you were going with that.
This is some down home Michigan homerism right here
I love me some Bruce Bowen, and even I think he would have gotten embarrassed by Curry. Defenses in Dumars' day simply didn't have to account for anything along the lines of what Curry does on a nightly basis.
2nd there has never been a 3 point chucker like Curry past or present but Dumars guarded Vernon Maxwell, Dale Ellis, Reggie Miller, John Starks etc so to act like he's never seen a 3 point shot is just stupid
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