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Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:55 am to RonBurgundy
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The thing about Love and LeBron is that they both want the ball on the same spots on the court. If you are the franchise player and you personally recruit a guy (twice) then you make the sacrifices to put the offensively strong player in the best position to make his biggest impact.
LeBron can do practically anything wants on the court...so why not adjust so his team can unlock their potential?
Word. Word. I understand what you're saying. It's obvious they aren't getting what they need to out of Love and maybe a change in LeBron's approach is what is needed to maximize the team's potential. LeBron is incredibly versatile so you're right in that he can play any position on the floor.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:17 pm to Topwater Trout
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3pts>2pts
6 > 1
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:49 pm to okietiger
quote:1>0
6 > 1
That is titles at the age of 27....
Posted on 2/29/16 at 1:47 pm to lsupride87
Winning 5 more is going to take some work...
Posted on 2/29/16 at 1:48 pm to okietiger
quote:Well he is doing pretty good this year
Winning 5 more is going to take some work...
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:10 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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The better comparison would be to a guy like Reggie Miller who could shoot the hell out of it. What could he have done in today's game?
Something tells me he'd be no better now than he was then, but who knows.
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he's not the only guy who's ever lived who could shoot the ball. He's just the first REALLY frickING AWESOME shooter who has been given the absolute green light to launch it at any time. He's got the luxury of being the gunner on what looks so much like Paul Westhead's Loyola-Marymount's system it's scary
I understand your point, but you're beginning to make Steph sound like a pure volume shooter - an accumulator. He is on pace for the 4th highest eFG% of any non-center in history, and the highest of any non-center with over 15% usage rate ever.
He is an absurd shooter and the fact that his numbers beat that out even at his usage is incredible.
Food for thought: The difference between Curry's PER this year of 32.9 and the current highest PER of all-time - 31.82 by Wilt in 1962-1963 - is the same gap between Wilt and the 14th best season of all time.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:16 pm to shel311
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He only asked you because you oddly focused on Lebron in this thread, and your point when you brought him up was incorrect, fwiw.
What point is incorrect? Also, name the first poster in this thread who referenced LeBron.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:17 pm to RonBurgundy
quote:Chad
Also, name the first poster in this thread who referenced LeBron.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:23 pm to Biggereztiger
How is this a shocking stat? Have you ever watched MJ play?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:33 pm to Biggereztiger
All of these new Curry slurpers are quickly becoming insufferable.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:35 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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"The 3-point shot is something i don't want to excel at because it takes away from all phases of my game.. My game is to fake, drive to the hole, penetrate, dish off, dunk or whatever... and when you have that mentality as i found out in the first game of making 3's, you don't go to the hole as much, you start running to the 3-point line and starting sitting there and waiting for someone to find you.. and that's not my mentality and i don't want to create that, because it takes away from other parts of my game."
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:57 pm to RonBurgundy
quote:1. Irrelevant to my point...even though your point was actually incorrect.
What point is incorrect?
2. I already answered that and asked you to name all the Lebron fanboys who constantly shite on Curry. You haven't done so yet...
quote:So why is it that you chose to stick that 1 small sub-topic instead of the actual topic of the thread? Oh I know, because it was about lebron "fanboys", thus further proving my point.
Also, name the first poster in this thread who referenced LeBron.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:58 pm to Biggereztiger
Can Curry get at least a couple of FMVP awards before we start comparing him to MJ?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:01 pm to AlabamaAlum07
quote:He averaged 26,5, and 6 in a finals already. He is about to win his second straight MVP title while challenging the 72 game mark. He is also about to break Wilts unbreakable season PER record. I think it is fine to start the discussion
Can Curry get at least a couple of FMVP awards before we start comparing him to MJ?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:06 pm to lsupride87
quote:Wayyyyy too early IMO.
He averaged 26,5, and 6 in a finals already. He is about to win his second straight MVP title while challenging the 72 game mark. He is also about to break Wilts unbreakable season PER record. I think it is fine to start the discussion
It's way too early now. He's going to have to have sustained success for 5+ seasons of some variation of his level now, maybe slightly lower since he's playing so well.
There hasn't been a player get to a level to actually start the discussion since MJ left.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:11 pm to lsupride87
Curry had one great but not historic season last year, and is in the midst of an all-time great season now. Maybe the greatest offensive season ever, but it's still 1 season.
MJ is the all time leading scorer in the regular season, playoffs, and finals. He has 5 MVPS and a record 6 finals MVP (which is double second place). He led the league in scoring a record 10 times, and is the only player in NBA history to win the scoring title and defensive player of the year in the same season. All of that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 historic shooting season. This board is ridiculous.
MJ is the all time leading scorer in the regular season, playoffs, and finals. He has 5 MVPS and a record 6 finals MVP (which is double second place). He led the league in scoring a record 10 times, and is the only player in NBA history to win the scoring title and defensive player of the year in the same season. All of that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 historic shooting season. This board is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:14 pm to shel311
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1. Irrelevant to my point...even though your point was actually incorrect.
wow shel, how cowardly of you. What exactly did I say that you think was incorrect.
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So why is it that you chose to stick that 1 small sub-topic instead of the actual topic of the thread? Oh I know, because it was about lebron "fanboys", thus further proving my point.
Because that's the thread was turning and watching the fanboys get their panties twisted is funny...kind of like what's happening now.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:16 pm to slackster
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Something tells me he'd be no better now than he was then, but who knows.
My only point in suggesting it's not such a closed case it thinking of me re-watching a 1988 playoff game a week or so ago on NBA Classics between the Bulls and Celtics. By 1988, Jordan was really beginning to have an impact on the league, though had not yet won anything team oriented...but his style was already beginning to be emulated by younger guys a few years below. This was a first round game I think where Jordan went for 55 or something, but the Celtics won. It was a great contrast between what was versus what would become. Jordan was already playing a different game...he was faster, more athletic, it simply looked different than everyone else. But...it made me think back to guys like Dr. J who also looked to be playing a different game when they played.
Jordan was a better overall player, but his game was born from watching Dr. J. And yet, it would have been foolish to suggest that Dr. J could not have played in the 90's. His skill set and athleticism would have evolved to match the current game. He likely would have taken the things he was good at and if they fit better with the game of the late 80's and 90's, he'd have been even better.
I think that's an argument that I'd make for Miller. Had he played today, he'd have been in the same Steph role. Would he have shot any higher percentage? It's really impossible to say, but I'd argue that when something becomes more of a phase of the game guys tend to get better at it. Or, in the case of free throws, worse at it as they quit bothering to be any good at it.
And keep in mind, I never liked Miller...so I'm not knighting for the guy.
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I understand your point, but you're beginning to make Steph sound like a pure volume shooter - an accumulator.
Not my intent at all. Honestly...I've missed the absolute frick out of basketball, so I'm really incredibly pleased that Curry has broken out with style that so perfectly fits with some of the stuff I truly enjoy about the game. Frankly, it was one of the things which LeBron (not to make it about that guy) never did for me. As good as he is, I just never enjoyed watching his game. But Steph is different, and his style and the way he seems to be dragging the NBA with him has been contagious to watch.
As with most things, I tend to want to tap the breaks a bit with hyperbole when anyone starts anointing anyone the new Greatest. And I thought comparing him to Jordan, especially in regards to threes, was kind of disingenuous...like someone said it would be like comparing the number of dunks they each had. Great case of apples and oranges.
I'm content to watch the guy tear it up and see where it goes...because so far it's be a fricking blast.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:18 pm to lsupride87
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Chad
You brought up Pippen before i brought up lebron's name. Eat a dick. In fact, eat 4... like all of bron's nba finals losses.
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