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Ole Miss is 2-0 against Bama in the past two

Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:29 pm
Posted by DeAndre_Way
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:29 pm
Last years result was a closely contested game, but this years was one which Ole Miss dominated Bama before the gumps made a late surge. The issue is that Hugh Freeze, a coach with considerably less talent at Ole Miss, has been able to consistently beat our rival. Les Miles has a much better team, but has put forth a lackluster showing against the gumps. The issue is coaching because it's obvious that Bama needs to be spread out to lose, not ran right up the middle the entire game...
Posted by BHSU Only
Member since Apr 2015
285 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:31 pm to
It doesn't matter how they win its that they win. We can't beat them, and Ole Miss can. We need to adapt.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:31 pm to
And Ole Miss' spread offense that likes to throw the ball all over the field and never run the ball has gotten them 3 losses already. One to Memphis. And Ole Miss is a very talented team.

LSU is built to beat 95% of the teams in the country. Alabama just isn't one of them. Yet, we still have competed closely with them a handful of times since Saban turned Alabama around.

I'd rather do what we do.

However, what someone posted earlier about adapting our pro-style offense a little (like Saban did at Alabama) and running more short passes and screens would be a good idea. But changing to an all-out spread offense isn't what I want to see.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3948 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:32 pm to
Ole Miss has 3 losses so far this season eventhough they beat Alabama. I'd rather be where we are at 7-1. If we are tied in two weeks, then I'll be jealous of Ole Miss.
Posted by lwlsu96
Member since Oct 2011
5404 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:33 pm to
Ole Miss plays them at the perfect time of year too
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6183 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:37 pm to
It's no secret that spread teams give Bama the most trouble. We don't need to go to the full wide-open spread, I just wish we could incorporate more principles that would allow us to move the LOS and put pressure on linebackers once in a while. Very similar to what tOSU did to Bama during the semi-final last year.

Our talent will get us through the majority of our schedule every year regardless of our scheme. But our scheme will always hinder us vs. them. And they are whats in the way of our ultimate goal.
Posted by TigerOne
Member since Sep 2007
1944 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:41 pm to
Freeze seems to know how to beat Saban. I want him should he become available for Cam's job. However, I doubt that Miles would beat Saban again with all the talented recruits and the best assistants available because Miles makes the ultimate game plan A with no alternative plan B.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66575 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:44 pm to
but he has lost 3 games the same year he beat them
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13961 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:56 pm to
Alabama doesn't give a frick about Ole Miss. Saban builds his team to beat us because we are their biggest threat every year. As long as Saban puts their bye week before us and builds his team to beat us, they will continue to beat us. That is just how it's going to be. Doesn't matter who our coach is.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

The issue is that Hugh Freeze, a coach with considerably less talent at Ole Miss

bullshite.

Ole Miss has 3 players that are a lock for the 1st round, and all might go top 10. Nkemdiche and Tunsil are both locks to go in the top 10. And Treadwell is arguably the top WR in the draft and could def go top 10 as well. Evan Engram is 1 of, if not the top, TE prospect and will be gone by day 2. And Tony Connor was a potential 1st rounder as well before tearing his meniscus. Still will be gone by day 2 of the draft.

I'm not saying Ole Miss is more talented than we are. But they do not have "considerable less talent" than we do. Vandy and Kentucky are "considerably less talented" than we are. Ole Miss isn't. They are def top 4 in the SEC based on talent alone.
This post was edited on 11/8/15 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36761 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 9:59 pm to
LSU is the game they look forward to every year
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 10:25 pm to
Les will not win again against Saban unless he learns to spread out their D and stops trying to run straight at the teeth of their D.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14551 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:08 pm to
The issue is scheme. Ole Miss runs a completely different system and implement a lot of run/pass options that make the defense commit to one responsibility. It's an unorthodox system and that's why Bama can't handle it. Ole Miss was extremely lucky as well.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58062 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:32 pm to
It's called adapting your game plan to the opponents weaknesses, not being stubborn and bashing your head against the wall thinking something will change.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
24322 posts
Posted on 11/8/15 at 11:37 pm to
We don't need to go all spread, but we need to use every look that we can to our advantage and open things up. Bama knew exactly what we were doing almost every time because we do the same stuff over and over.
Multiple defensive players for LSU last night said that Bama came out with a lot of looks they had not seen before on film and Bama used that to their advantage to confuse the D and move the football. That is coaching.
Posted by SBC
Member since Oct 2005
6870 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 2:49 am to
Ole miss has 3 losses already.
Posted by BRtoATL
Bogota
Member since Aug 2009
232 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 3:00 am to
Guys give it up. The other posters have made excellent arguments. Bama can't be beat because they have better recruits. Fact is, they don't even coach over there at Bama, coaching makes no difference once the 5* athletes lineup. If we had as many 5* athlete's as Bama we could actually save some dough and lay off the entire coaching staff.

Anyways, even if we lucked up and did beat Bama--the universe would require that we would lose 3 other games (see Ole Miss). And we don't want that guys! No other option. Logic boom!
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67601 posts
Posted on 11/9/15 at 6:22 am to
All we need to do is run what Bama does. They are still considered a power running team. They just aren't interested in running into 8-9 men boxes the entire game.
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