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Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:14 pm to growler
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He is a great coach with great athletes. We have an average coach with great athletes. CNS would probably have been successful in any field he entered. LSU can thank him for upgrading their program.
Wow. Just wow. Miles has the best record of any coach in LSU history, one of the top records in SEC history, and you think he is an average coach with lots of talented players. Anyone who thinks talented 18-21 year olds can be as successful as LSU has been under Miles without excellent coaching, I just don't kno where to begin, but you really need to rethink your opinion.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:29 pm to BayouBlogger
"DICK SATAN"...YES, has a ring to it..... 
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:37 pm to growler
quote:this will never die no matter how many times i debunk it. if miles wins only because of talent, then the sec isn't the toughest conference. the sec is the toughest conference. therefore, no coach can just throw a random, uncoordinated collection of talent on the field and win as much as miles does. it's just plain illogical and perhaps the most prevalent misconception on the rant.
We have an average coach with great athletes
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:47 pm to bfniii
No use talking to them. Some of these people absolutely will not give Coach Miles credit. Why not bask in the fact we are going thru the Golden Years of LSU football.
#inb4,yeahbutweshouldhavedonebetter.!
did I do that right?
#inb4,yeahbutweshouldhavedonebetter.!
did I do that right?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:48 pm to BayouBlogger
Here's my amateur psychiatric take on Saban (and Miles) based on pretty much nothing but my own opinions/observations:
It always struck me that deep down Saban was cut out to be kind of a brainiac. Maybe even a bit of a nerd. But I think I've read that his dad was very demanding on him and I think he made himself into an athlete and then into a coach (where the strategy wonk part came natural to him but the interacting with people didn't and he still seems to have a hard time with that).
Miles on the other hand seems to have been a natural "big man on campus" type and has a natural affability that stands him good as a recruiter and as a leader. But perhaps for him the strategy part did not come as natural and he has had to work to learn it - from people like Bo Schembechler, Bill McCartney and some of the people he coached with on the Cowboys.
Anyway, that's my take and it could be dead wrong but that's the way it has away struck me.
It always struck me that deep down Saban was cut out to be kind of a brainiac. Maybe even a bit of a nerd. But I think I've read that his dad was very demanding on him and I think he made himself into an athlete and then into a coach (where the strategy wonk part came natural to him but the interacting with people didn't and he still seems to have a hard time with that).
Miles on the other hand seems to have been a natural "big man on campus" type and has a natural affability that stands him good as a recruiter and as a leader. But perhaps for him the strategy part did not come as natural and he has had to work to learn it - from people like Bo Schembechler, Bill McCartney and some of the people he coached with on the Cowboys.
Anyway, that's my take and it could be dead wrong but that's the way it has away struck me.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:52 pm to tigerinridgeland
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Miles has the best record of any coach in LSU history, one of the top records in SEC history, and you think he is an average coach with lots of talented players.
What has happened is that these kids are too young to remember Archer/Hallman/Dinardo (2 of those were good football coaches, by the way) OR, are so blinded by the Saban cult and/or viceral hatred of Miles they forget 1 thing:
Winning doesn't just happen. Yes a team can get lucky (like the Bluegrass Miracle). Yes, a team can require a miraculous and improbable comback to beat Troy at home. Yes, Miles has some flaws - slow to change personnel, doghouses, clock management woes.
But, to deny he isn't one of the best coaches in college football just crushes the credibility of anything else you have to say about college football.
Miles has attracted top tier assistants and inspired loyalty and high performance out of them. He has recruited nationally and consistently delivered highly rated recruiting classes. Yes, we don't get gaudy, 5 and 6 touchdown wins over cupcakes on a regular basis. We rarely get trounced, either - and a majority of his losses have been by less than 14 points.
That doesn't "just happen". Run the ball and stop the run. It isn't complicated, sexy or particularly exciting, but it is a formula that works in Pop Warner, middle school, high school, prep school, JUCO, college and pro (maybe not so much in CFL or Arena -
). Posted on 10/28/15 at 12:58 pm to BayouBlogger
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I don't know. I think he's past his prime. He's under less pressure there and ridiculously compensated. He did good things when he was with LSU, don't want to be too sour grapes, but I wasn't displeased with the change once we knew the new staff.
I'll believe he's past his prime when LSU beats him 4 times in a row.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:00 pm to SwampManiac
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I don't know. I think he's past his prime. He's under less pressure there and ridiculously compensated. He did good things when he was with LSU, don't want to be too sour grapes, but I wasn't displeased with the change once we knew the new staff.
I'll believe he's past his prime when LSU beats him 4 times in a row.
I think that was a reference to Chavis, not Saban.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:13 pm to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
DirtyMike, the stories about the way Saban treated workers in the Ath. Building are true in at least one instance, and there is way too many other stories out there to call BS. A friend's daughter, an 18 yr old freshman on her first day at work, passed him in the halls & she, simply being polite, said "Good morning, Coach", nothing else. He did not answer & kept on walking. 30 minutes later she was called into her supervisor's office and chewed out for breaking one of the "Saban's Rules". Of which she had no clue. She later told her dad that the time Saban fell off the dock at his summer place on the lake in N.C and was pulled out to safety by a TAF big shot, that if there had only been athletic dept workers around, " his mean arse would have drowned". He got away with mis-treating the press here in BR because the owner of the paper was a huge LSU booster & would not allow any negative press about Saban. He walks all over the local press there in Alabama because he can as well. At Miami, he was dealing with a professional sport team's media, i.e. pros, and he had no control over them That is why they came to hate him, him, them, so much & ripped his short arse to pieces. And do consider the coaching tree he came from: Belicheck & Parsells, two of the biggest assholes in coaching.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:26 pm to Ellssu
Les makes football fun? LOL
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:34 pm to supadave3
quote:She was later told by a higher up to never adress coach again unless he initiated conversation.
What's this story?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:40 pm to Funky Tide 8
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2011 was a great game, but it was so tense every play. Bama could have won that one, we could have won a couple since though. I just don't think "fun" when I think of LSU-Bama games, even when they had good teams before Nick and even when we won.
No doubt. 2011 was without a doubt the most tense game I've ever watched. Next Saturday will probably match it, or surpass it.
Y'all remember how much the national media said about that game after it was played, and the "boring" comments started coming? Not sure if it was as bad as I remember, but I do remember non-sec folks talk about 6-3 games aren't football....
BS -
that was a game during which every yard was contested on every play, and, at the end of the game - we had to wait till the true end of the game and overtime - to know when it was over.
Many other LSU Bama games have been pretty much the same way. Say what you will, call butthurt on me, whatever - 'cause I KNOW I am - the pain to losing to Bama in some of those games where one stop here/there wins the game is still raw and fresh.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:42 pm to ALA15BAMA
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Both guys were told to find other jobs. Nick liked KS has known him along time. LT is a POS always has been and always will be. If you like you wife don't let her around lance he don't cull anything if you know what I mean!
Interesting quote from a Bama poster w/14 post. Who's his Eskimo brother staff member?
Posted on 10/28/15 at 1:43 pm to TigerTreyjpg
Seems like the reporter hit a nerve when he asked about LSU and Steele, little Nicki might be a bit concerned about our Tigers.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:21 pm to tigerinridgeland
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CNS would probably have been successful in any field he entered.
Not true- would you want Nick to be your neurosurgeon?
How about your Airline pilot with his impatience and lack of tolerance?
or an auto technician? your dentist?
We all have different skill sets- He is a great coach- lets leave it that
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:23 pm to BayouBlogger
When you have the power he has being a jerk can come naturally. If he wants a broadcast career after football he may want to curb this behavior.
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:25 pm to BayouBlogger
When Saban was here we lost to UAB!
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:34 pm to LsuNav
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If he wants a broadcast career after football he may want to curb this behavior.
saban will die in his office as a coach
Posted on 10/28/15 at 2:43 pm to Keltic Tiger
I met him Thursday night at a function in Tuscaloosa. His smiles were forced and his interactions were brief, but he seemed normal enough to me. I did not tiger bait him.
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