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re: What was Foster supposed to do at home?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:40 pm to LSUsmartass
Posted on 6/14/15 at 4:40 pm to LSUsmartass
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What do you know, you're a damn pitcher
Glad someone finally said it!
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Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:06 pm to hendersonshands
Not to mention he wasn't good enough for LSU! 
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:18 pm to Catman88
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RuleSECTION 7. The rules committee is concerned about unnecessary and violentcollisions with the catcher at home plate, and with infielders at all bases. Theintent of this rule is to encourage base runners and defensive players to avoid suchcollisions whenever possible.
When there is a collision between a runner and a fielder who clearly is inpossession of the ball, the umpire shall judge:If the defensive player blocks the base (plate) or base line with clear possessionof the ball, the runner may make contact, slide into or make contact with a fielderas long as the runner is making a legitimate attempt to reach the base (plate).Contact above the waist that was initiated by the base runner shall not be judgedas an attempt to reach the base or plate.
(1) The runner must make an actual attempt to reach the base (plate).
PENALTY—If the runner attempts to dislodge the ball or initiates an avoidable collision, the runner shall be declared out, even if the fielder loses possession of the ball. The ball is dead and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the interference
. (2) The runner may not attempt to dislodge the ball from the fielder. Contactabove the waist shall be judged by the umpire as an attempt by the runnerto dislodge the ball.
PENALTY—If the contact is flagrant or malicious before the runner touches the plate, the runner shall be declared out and also ejected from the contest. The ball is immediately dead and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the interference.
(3) The runner must attempt to avoid a collision if he can reach the basewithout colliding.
PENALTY—If the contact is flagrant or malicious after the runner touches the base (plate), the runner is safe, but is ejected from the contest. The ball is immediately dead and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the interference. If this occurs at any base other than home, the offending team may replace the runner. If the contact occurs after a preceding runner touches home plate, the preceding runner is safe. The ball is immediately dead and all other base runners shall return to the last base touched at the time of the contact.
(4) If the runner’s path to the base is blocked and (1), (2) and (3) are fulfilled,it is considered unavoidable contact (
From NCAA rules (format sucks)
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:30 pm to ehidal1
If you can slide around the catcher does it satisfy #3?
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:35 pm to bmy
The only thing he could have done, IMO, was take a later slide and thus taken out the legs of the catcher. Given that the ball arrived at the same time as he did, at least that woudl have made the catch harder and maybe the catcher doesn't field it cleanly.
The reality is that the throw was perfect. I don't think you can fault Foster at all. I couldn't tell if he got a bad jump. That's where the error was made if anywhere.
The reality is that the throw was perfect. I don't think you can fault Foster at all. I couldn't tell if he got a bad jump. That's where the error was made if anywhere.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:43 pm to moneyg
My biggest complaint was that Foster seemed to not get a good jump.
Earlier this year at MMP, a Baylor runner was called safe on us because ump said Kade was blocking the plate before he had possession of the ball. You are not allowed to block the plate without the ball. The grey area is the 'attempting to catch', but I still didn't think you were allowed to block the runners path.
Great throw by the OF and play by the C. That one hurt more than it felt at the time.
Earlier this year at MMP, a Baylor runner was called safe on us because ump said Kade was blocking the plate before he had possession of the ball. You are not allowed to block the plate without the ball. The grey area is the 'attempting to catch', but I still didn't think you were allowed to block the runners path.
Great throw by the OF and play by the C. That one hurt more than it felt at the time.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 7:50 pm to ehidal1
Go back and look at replay, foster pulled his legs back instead of going in fully extended.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:08 pm to lsuroadie
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shouldn't have been half arse jogging around third...that's what he should have done
This! If he does this there is no need to collide with the catcher or try to avoid him.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:16 pm to Kingpenm3
Major league II
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:21 pm to SteveLSU35
Side camera shot showed Skoug was still juggling the ball in his mitt when applying the tag, he could have been called for obstructing the plate. You guys keep posting what you want. Wasn't close to the reason for the L.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:24 pm to Kingpenm3
You just have to make an attempt to avoid him if he is in that area, which means it has to look like you are avoiding him and there can be some grey area incidental contact. So you can't blow right through him, but you can nudge him on the outside shoulder as you make an attempt to get to the plate.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:45 pm to ehidal1
I am aware of that rule. It is not in play though when the catcher does not have the ball. Hence the line.. Clear possession of the ball. The play should have been ruled blocking the plate. In college the catcher is ONLY allowed to block the plate if he has possession of the ball. See the ask the umpire section that addresses this.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:47 pm to ehidal1
That's the correct call too. In High school a catcher can block while attempting to make a catch in college the catcher cannot block the path at all until he has the ball.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 8:59 pm to Catman88
If the catcher doesn't put his knee to the ground and use his shin to block the plate, fosters cleat gets the plate before the tag, no doubt.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:02 pm to LfcSU3520
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It was just well executed by TCU
9 times out of 10 he scores there. That was the perfect throw and catch.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:09 pm to Kingpenm3
Should've slowed up and crane kicked him...
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:11 pm to southernelite
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If the catcher doesn't put his knee to the ground and use his shin to block the plate, fosters cleat gets the plate before the tag, no doubt.
This, it is a terrible rule. If you can't clear him out when blocking the plate the runner has no chance. That has always been part of baseballl. The rule should be you block the plate while in the act of catching the ball or before the ball is there the runner can knock you out of the way.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:29 pm to Kingpenm3
He should have stopped and nicely asked the catcher to drop the ball and let him touch home plate. Sometimes being polite can work wonders with people.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:36 pm to ehidal1
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When there is a collision between a runner and a fielder who clearly is inpossession of the ball
Here's the kicker, he didn't have possession when he blocked the plate. Still can't truck him, but the block should have been illegal.
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:20 pm to Kingpenm3
The TCU catcher showed everyone that he is more than willing to sit on the plate and dare anyone. He did this in the SR as well. Nothing new here. Did LSU coaches prepare the team what to do with a catcher who dares anyone to move him off the plate? I don't know.
To me, catchers that do this should consider this possibility
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To me, catchers that do this should consider this possibility
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